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Spoilers Book of Boba Fett [Spoiler Discussion]

Personally I wish they had saved some that expense and put it towards modifying the Rogue One ISD a bit more than just adding some red stripes and slapping a BFG on it.
In this day and age you can get a professional voice recording done no matter what city you are in and send the file to the editor
 
Such broad assumptions

Born in Cleveland in 1958
Watched Star Wars the first week of release and then 27 times in smaller theaters after that.

What I have is some hearing loss and watch the film on stream mostly, not the best sound quality on a tablet. I keep subtitles on to compensate which does not help discern actors off screen...
I didn't assume, I asked a question. And then I was right, there was a reason- hearing loss and watching it on a probably mono-speaker tablet. :shrug:
 
Regarding what some are erroneously referring to as an "ultimatum," the sword vs object of sentimental attachment choice is a story beat present in earlier works, arguably by now a trope (in the sense of motif, device, or cliché). See, for example, Lone Wolf and Cub regarding the choice that Daigorō's father has Daigorō make when he is one year old [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Wolf_and_Cub]. What specifically the writers of Boba Fett were inspired by, I do not know.

My present interpretation in the context of the Sequel Trilogy and other franchise works released to date, subject to change upon the release of future works, is that Grogu's choice is a criticism of Luke's inflexible adherence to Jedi dogma as he understands it at this particular stage in his personal journey. I mean, the principle that Boba decides to live by is that attachment to tribe and family is essential, whereas Luke was attempting to train Grogu in accordance with the opposite position.

I have to say that The Book of Boba Fett has won the current high-water mark in Disney era live-action Star Wars. It managed to be actually about something on a literary level, namely tribe. The fact that it didn't "need" to go the extra mile to be commercially successful and yet got literary anyway is to its credit. I can only hope that the future live-action series so aspire.
 
My present interpretation in the context of the Sequel Trilogy and other franchise works released to date, subject to change upon the release of future works, is that Grogu's choice is a criticism of Luke's inflexible adherence to Jedi dogma as he understands it at this particular stage in his personal journey. I mean, the principle that Boba decides to live by is that attachment to tribe and family is essential, whereas Luke was attempting to train Grogu in accordance with the opposite position.

I doubt it was a coincidence that in the prior episode, the Armorer exposited/reiterated the origin of the Darksaber, which rooted in the fact that it's possible to be both a Mandalorian and a Jedi, even while also pointing out that the Mandalorian and Jedi creeds are apparently in opposition.
 
Grogu's choice is a criticism of Luke's inflexible adherence to Jedi dogma as he understands it at this particular stage in his personal journey. I mean, the principle that Boba decides to live by is that attachment to tribe and family is essential, whereas Luke was attempting to train Grogu in accordance with the opposite position.
I like this idea that the theme running through the series is Tribe. The Tuskens are the obvious example, but Boba taking over Jaba's and forming his band of merrymen matches that and reinforces Boba's evolution. Likewise Fennec joining him, Din backing him up without reservation, and Cobb Vance inspiring the folk of Freetown.

I doubt it was a coincidence that in the prior episode, the Armorer exposited/reiterated the origin of the Darksaber, which rooted in the fact that it's possible to be both a Mandalorian and a Jedi, even while also pointing out that the Mandalorian and Jedi creeds are apparently in opposition.
The Mando and Jedi creeds are Yin and Yang and should be in harmony, the way Tarre Vizla was. Hopefully Luke comes to see that. I've been thinking that Grogu may be destined to follow in Vizla's footsteps.
 
For those into that kind of thing, here's a compilation of leaks we had for TBoBF before and during the season, it's kinda a neat.

I wonder how many of the true ones were fake, and turning out true was just a coincidence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLe...ilation_of_reports_for_the_book_of_boba_fett/

Interesting, the Vespas and N1 Starfighter were leaked back in December 2020, but the leaker thought they were for Mando Season 3 because the Boba Fett show hadn't event been announced yet. The Leak was posted 17 days before the Mando Season 2 Finale.

I think I read somewhere that the internal name for Boba Fett was Mando Season 3, I guess as a secret keeping measure.
 
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^ Thanks for posting this. You're right, a good read for those who are fans of the actress, the character and behind the scenes movie making stuff in general. Worth a few minutes of ones time..

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It had been a while since I watched Clone Wars or Rebels. So I had forgotten about Clan Viszla and didn't make the connection between Pas Viszla and the ancient Karre Viszla as described by the Armorer, and the big famous clan, as well as the stuff about Karre from Rebels.

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Viszla wasn't just a clan, but a major House, with vassal clans all of it's own (including Clan Wren!) I say "was" since it's a fair bet Paz may be the last of that line now, so hardly even a clan in anything but name anymore.
 
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Pas Vizsla was even voiced by Jon Favreau, who also voiced Pre Vizsla in Clone Wars.

IIRC Death Watch and the name Vizsla was something that already existed before Clone Wars used it.
In canon, they really haven't gotten into that (yet.) In the EU, yeah, Death Watch were part of Jango's backstory and "Vizsla" (later retconned as "Tor Vizsla") was it's leader. Mostly just in a mini-comic that was part of the Dark Horse tie-in push for AotC.

Later, when TCW introduced Mandalorians, Lucas integrated a few details like the Death Watch name and making it's leader "Pre Vizsla" as more of a nod, than anything. The context and execution of either versions bare only a passing resemblance since the former is a faction in the Civil War that took place a generation prior to the Clone Wars, while the latter was a terrorist organization agitating for a more religious fundamentalist direction in opposition to the current pacifist philosophy.

It gets a little muddled of course since the EU was still around for most of TCW's run, and the EU was always retconning itself to align with canon, regardless of a previous story's original intent (and another Vizsla ancestor even shows up in SWTOR as Shae Vizla, AKA 'Mandalore The Avenger') so later stories try and reconcile both versions. Hell, IIRC even those aforementioned tie-in comics for AotC were themselves retconning previous versions of Boba's backstory involving Jaster Mereel, The Protectors and Concord Dawn.

Bottom line though; in canon, while The Death Watch as an organization was a growing problem for Satine's regime, Vizla's involvement with them was only uncovered during the Clone Wars. Given that he was granted governorship of Concordia (conveniently where all the warrior clans that refused to disarm were exiled) it seems unlikely that House Vizla openly opposed House Kryze during that last Civil War. Equally unlikely that Satine knew hose Vizla still possessed the Darksaber; that was probably a closely guarded secret until they were ready to show their true colours and make a claim for the throne.

There's still a lot of unanswered questions of course; who were the opposing faction, how Bo Katan and Satine ended up on opposite sides (not to mention how after a year with Satine on Mandalore in the middle of that very conflict, how Kenobi had never even heard Satine even had a sister), how the war ultimately ended, or why it even started in the first place.

I can put forward a few guesses, but that's all they'd be: -
Specifically that the belligerents in said civil war weren't an opposing House, but a faction of House Kryze itself, that Bo Katan is Satine's half-sister and that dynastic split is at the heart of the schism. I'd also say Vizla even openly backed Satine's claim, all the while keeping both Bo Katan and the Darksaber as their sylops in the hole, knowing the beaten, bitter and leaderless warrior clans would be easier to control after the Kryze warrior faction was eliminated.
 
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I just like to imagine that TCW isn't part of the Legends canon, instead of Legends trying to twist and contort itself to make TCW fit. I know it's not official, but things are just neater that way.
 
I just like to imagine that TCW isn't part of the Legends canon, instead of Legends trying to twist and contort itself to make TCW fit. I know it's not official, but things are just neater that way.
It would be nice to think so, but as I illustrated, the EU didn't need TCW to be a contorted mess of repeated, contradictory retcons, upon retcons. It was doing that all by itself before even the prequels came out, never mind Clone Wars.

Better to think of each publication as it's own fractal entity, and product of it's own time than part of anything resembling a coherent whole. Because that's basically how the people that wrote and published them did.
 
It would be nice to think so, but as I illustrated, the EU didn't need TCW to be a contorted mess of repeated, contradictory retcons, upon retcons. It was doing that all by itself before even the prequels came out, never mind Clone Wars.

Better to think of each publication as it's own fractal entity, and product of it's own time than part of anything resembling a coherent whole. Because that's basically how the people that wrote and published them did.
For me it's like TOS. Of course it's canon, but there's a thousand things that don't really fit in with TNG and later. Don't have a problem with it, I still watch TOS and enjoy it.
 
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