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Sad to say I never really recognized any of the force voices when watching the movie...
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Ahsoka would be ~70 year old by the time of Rise of Skywalker.
Seventy One.
But that doesn't really mean much since we don't know how long Togruta live, only that they seem to mature at about the same rate as humans in adolescence.

Hell, we don't really know how long humans tend to live in this galaxy. By rights with all the advanced medical technology from magical healing gel to prosthetics that can replace literally *everything* it should probably be somewhere in the 100 - 120 range, with the super rich being able to make it north of 300, even if by the end they're just a brain in a jar, being walked around by a droid.

Also; Hondo is still kicking around by this point, and he wasn't exactly young when Ahsoka was a kid either.
 
Then again, some humans seem to age exceptionally fast…

Anakin, Obi Wan, Boba.
Sure, could just be the Tattoine climate, but maybe some humans have a normal lifespan of 40-50 years and that’s it?
 
And Boba was an unaltered clone. Altered Clone Troopers like Rex aged even faster, getting white beards by their twenties.
 
Didn't Filoni tweet something shortly after Rise of Skywalker's release indicating Ahsoka may not be as dead as many believed her to be after seeing the movie?
I believe his exact words were . . .
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Then again, some humans seem to age exceptionally fast…

Anakin, Obi Wan, Boba.
Sure, could just be the Tattoine climate, but maybe some humans have a normal lifespan of 40-50 years and that’s it?
I prefer not to read too much into this kind of thing since it's largely the result of the practical realities of actors playing characters that are either older or younger than they are, and sometimes several different actors who aren't exactly dead ringers for each other playing the same character at various ages.

For example; in 'Revenge of the Sith' baby Luke and baby Leia were clearly not played by a newborn (for obvious reasons.) Furthermore, they were both played by the same baby, despite them being fraternal twins, not identical. Are we to propose that there was a time jump of several weeks or months between when Padme gave birth and when the babies were handed to her? That they were born identical and were somehow "changed" at some point? And what about that A-Wing pilot that was clearly played by a woman, but was dubbed over by a man?

The answer is: it's just a movie, don't overthink it.
 
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Sad to say I never really recognized any of the force voices when watching the movie...
Is English not your first language maybe, or just not much of a Star Wars fan? As I can't imagine how someone couldn't recognise Frank Oz as Yoda! And Sam Jackson, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, and especially Mark Hamill are all pretty easy to spot.
 
Grogu had an obvious attachment and Luke presented a somewhat fair choice: Jedi or Mandalorian.

I suddenly had this absurd image in my head of Din, annoyed that Luke refused, decides to learn more of the Jedi way, and teaches Grogu himself, as clumsily the way he is wielding a Jedi weapon.

Now, it's not unprecedented for a non-Force sensitive person to teach Jedi, Huyang did that. But I mean in humorous way, where he teases him to move the metal ball.

I want to know is when do we find out that Rey is the love child of Ahsoka and The Mandalorian?
:whistle:;)

Ahsoka would be the kind to help Rey's parents to hide. But how's Palpatine resurrection remained hidden from Luke and Leia in that instance will be a minor mystery.

Is English not your first language maybe, or just not much of a Star Wars fan? As I can't imagine how someone couldn't recognise Frank Oz as Yoda! And Sam Jackson, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, and especially Mark Hamill are all pretty easy to spot.

Meh, I recognized only Yoda, Luke (barely), and perhaps Qui Gon. Listening now, I only recognize Obi-Wan, Luminara and Ahsoka in addition to that. And Anakin and Windu on second listen.
 
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Hell, we don't really know how long humans tend to live in this galaxy. By rights with all the advanced medical technology from magical healing gel to prosthetics that can replace literally *everything* it should probably be somewhere in the 100 - 120 range, with the super rich being able to make it north of 300, even if by the end they're just a brain in a jar, being walked around by a droid..
Personally I'd have my brain jar installed in the droid, with some armour plate, shock absorbers and useful button my chest. Something like Axel Pressbutton...
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I suddenly had this absurd image in my head of Din, annoyed that Luke refused, decides to learn more of the Jedi way, and teaches Grogu himself, as clumsily the way he is wielding a Jedi weapon.

Now, it's not unprecedented for a non-Force sensitive person to teach Jedi, Huyang did that. But I mean in humorous way, where he teases him to move the metal ball.
I had actually been thinking it would be the other way around. Grogu picks up the sabre, develops a natural feel for it, the returns the favour and teases Din to relax and let the sabre move him.
 
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Palpatine is good at shielding his presence. In the days of the Republic, he was able to hide in plain sight as the Jedi Council was unable to tell that there was this vortex of powerful Dark Side energy right in front of them even as they met with him in his office every single day.

Kor
 
I assume Palpatine managed to shove Snoke in their faces and thus keep his direct hand hidden.
Well, not only that, but also be a direct leader for the First Order regrouping and pressing on the New Republic to keep them from stabilizing too much. Snoke was basically a rallying point for Palaptine's goal of subjugating the galaxy.
 
What if Snoke had returned in a cloned body in TROS instead of Palpatine?

There's an argument that having Palpatine added some kind of overarching something-or-other connecting the story to the original trilogy and the prequels, and bringing things full circle. But obviously there was no plan to use him until they had to pick up the pieces left by TLJ (which I like) and come up with a great threat for the final chapter of this trilogy.

But if it had been Snoke instead, then I think it would have added some kind of coherence to the sequel trilogy. And it would have made him a bigger and more powerful threat as a Dark Side user who could escape death.

Kor
 
What if Snoke had returned in a cloned body in TROS instead of Palpatine?

There's an argument that having Palpatine added some kind of overarching something-or-other connecting the story to the original trilogy and the prequels, and bringing things full circle. But obviously there was no plan to use him until they had to pick up the pieces left by TLJ (which I like) and come up with a great threat for the final chapter of this trilogy.

But if it had been Snoke instead, then I think it would have added some kind of coherence to the sequel trilogy. And it would have made him a bigger and more powerful threat as a Dark Side user who could escape death.

Kor
I think Snoke returning works better.
 
What if Snoke had returned in a cloned body in TROS instead of Palpatine?

There's an argument that having Palpatine added some kind of overarching something-or-other connecting the story to the original trilogy and the prequels, and bringing things full circle. But obviously there was no plan to use him until they had to pick up the pieces left by TLJ (which I like) and come up with a great threat for the final chapter of this trilogy.

But if it had been Snoke instead, then I think it would have added some kind of coherence to the sequel trilogy. And it would have made him a bigger and more powerful threat as a Dark Side user who could escape death.

Kor
Using Palptine gives a coherant link through all the existing films. Using Snoke creates a new thread going forward. Yeah, this is my "overarching something-or-other" and it's just my own reading of the story regardless of whatever else is said by whomever.

I think both are valid choices, but there has to be one choice. I'm happy with Palpitne as long as it's the effin end of him. The effer has to be ended once and for all, no going back on it. Ending him actually makes whomever follows a stronger antagonist going forward.
 
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Using Palptine gives a coherant link through all the existing films.

This. While it's clear that loading him into RoS came late and otherwise unplanned, it makes a lot of sense in terms of the overal 9 film narrative, such as it is. Palpatine was The Phantom Menace working behind the scenes to help topple the Republic (though not the cause of all of that entity's problems, certainly). Palpatine was the iron fist of the Empire which the Rebellion toppled in turn. And it was the legacy of Palpatine that was being undone by our ST heroes, via ending the First Order.

It makes Palpatine the single overarching villain of the piece. Which, for better or worse, was necessary given the direction Snoke and Kylo Ren went in during the TLJ. I feel like the only real narrative mandate for the trilogy was "Ben Solo has to be redeemed... somehow." It's clumsy, and more than a little creepy in the way they went, but it is what it is. As much as I enjoy bits and pieces of the ST, it's really hard to argue they aren't a mess of competing visions and reinterpretation of characters, largely due to lacking a single cohesive vision driving them. If you didn't have a single director, you needed a Kevin Fiege type, and there just wasn't one to be found at the time.

Still the Star Wars: The Final Order would have been a better title for the last film, honestly. But that's water long since under the bridge at this point.
 
Luke's ultimatum might have been the first sign of him going astray. Staunchly enforcing some of the old Jedi rules of non-attachment that contributed to a lot of the problems in the prequels.

Even forgetting that it's his attachments that helped give him the strength to fight the dark side.
Except it wasn't an ultimatum. He merely explained the choice that was before Grogu. That choice would be there whether he said anything or not, and he place no implied value judgement on either option.

The bare fact of it is that being a Jedi is a life long commitment to the service of others. It's not like taking tai quan dao classes on the weekends (as it was often depicted in the EU.)
"Jedi" isn't a skill, or even a job description. It's an ethos. A creed. A religion and a way of life. But most of all, it's a choice.
 
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