Yeah, Tarka's going home, all felonies forgiven.
Discovery season 4 finale theories
- Thread starter jos3s
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https://trekmovie.com/2022/02/16/star-trek-discovery-showrunner-offers-clues-for-species-10-c/
Michelle Paradise:
"it’s unlike a species we’ve seen before"
Not in Alpha canon. But Beta canon would be OK I guess?
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Caeliar
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Sedín
"felt right for our show and right for Trek, specifically in the world of Trek."
Is there a difference between "your show" and Trek?
Speaking of expectation management:
"really dig deep"
It's not just deep, it's really deep! Oh WOW! Can't wait.
Michelle Paradise:
"it’s unlike a species we’ve seen before"
Not in Alpha canon. But Beta canon would be OK I guess?
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Caeliar
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Sedín
"felt right for our show and right for Trek, specifically in the world of Trek."
Is there a difference between "your show" and Trek?
Speaking of expectation management:
"really dig deep"
It's not just deep, it's really deep! Oh WOW! Can't wait.
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“The mystery will only deepen” doesn’t sound promising. Hope they don’t pull an Abrams (meaning that they don’t know themselves were this is going).
Nicely put! That sums up why this season is resonating so much with me.
::applause::
My current theory is the 10-C are actually Alpha Quadrant denizens who were Gary Mitchell-ed and have gone through to the conclusion of the evolution we saw started in WNMHGB. I think Book and/or Tarka will undergo the same effect and end up joining them. Of course, Burnham will talk the 10-C down in some speechifying worthy of Kirk talking down a computer.
I think Book gets the Gary Mitchell deluxe package, recreates Kwejian and either appoints himself as the planet's eternal beneficent guardian or duffs himself when he realises that much power with ultimately consume him. Maybe he goes all "Bad Wolf" and eradicates the 10-C for funsies.
Either way, bye-bye Book. Discovery gets its "big character" kiss off for the season. Burnham gets Grudge and the chance to deliver a tearful half-hour eulogy.
An interesting extrapolation of what all-consuming grief can do to a person.
Which only goes to show that the counsellors in the 32nd century are BAD at their jobs.
Disco crew seems like its in DIRE need of 24th century counsellors (you know, when things were apparently working as they should have).
In fact, Culber was appointed Disco counellor. I mean, WHY?
He's a medical doctor. Its one thing to have assisted the crew in a self-appointed counselling capacity when they didn't have one onboard, but its something else when the crew arrived at HQ and the ship underwent a 3 week refit to get upgraded with 32nd century technology.
SF should have had extensive counselling sessions for the entire Disco crew during those 3 weeks and post a permanent counsellor (or two) aboard (along with a 32nd century native 'team' of people to remain aboard for as long as they are needed to fully integrate the crew into that time frame in a way that wouldn't end up with logic and reason being eroded.
Thanks. It's one of the perils of being a writer: chasing down those darkest alleys becomes a habit.
You have a principal actor under contract to play the ship's chief physician, but watching someone treat hangnails and dislocated shoulders in deep space isn't as sexy as it used to be. Since Discovery's writer's room would rather disintegrate, incinerate, or outright chuck some bloke out a hull breach, there's not much for the ship's medical staff to do. So the job of shrink gets added to Doctor Culber's plate.
That's one of the pitfalls of starships travelling hither and yon in the blink of an eye. Space is supposed to be big. Really big. [cue Douglas Adams]
Instantaneous travel has a deleterious effect on the supporting cast. There's no room for their characters to breathe. We learned loads about Uhura, Sulu, Chekov, Scotty, and even Spock during those periods of downtime. Now it has to be manufactured out of the blue or, worse, have an entire episode dedicated to ne're-before hinted at abilities of, say, the ship's navigator.
ST: DISCO is a master class in how to assemble an intriguing ensemble of characters, marginalise the majority of them, and focus on the headliners. Yes, we've gotten a scant few episodes that deal with the peripheral characters, but they are largely superficial and don't genuinely add to their backstories in a meaningful way.
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I don't think instantaneous travel is the problem here.
The problem lies in Disco writers inputting lots of side stuff most of the time and using only the select few from the main cast as opposed to progressing the secondary characters with the main story arc itself.
And allowing a degree of downtime for the secondary characters to express themselves wouldn't change that? Riiiiiight.
It's called story pacing, and DISCO doesn't get it.
When?
Other than Spock, the TOS cast were a group of gimmicked extras with zero development. Uhura is only getting a backstory this year in Strange New Worlds.
mccoy occasionally doubled as ship’s counsellor, so it’s not really unheard of.
Occasionally is fine if the ship doesn't have a counsellor onboard.
But ever since the crew arrived at SF HQ in the 32nd century, they should have been given one or two specialized counsellors.
Those 3 weeks of Disco refit should have included the crew getting a crashcourse in UFP history, use of modern technology and science, and of course undergo extensive counselling sessions.
In a sense... each Disco crew member would be seen on a daily basis for an hour or two (possibly by programmed SF holo counsellors based on those who were most successful in history) to help them cope with the situation.
This I think was a missed opportunity.
And allowing a degree of downtime for the secondary characters to express themselves wouldn't change that? Riiiiiight.
It's called story pacing, and DISCO doesn't get it.
Downtime is fine... but here's the thing... Disco writers didn't really allow for the main story to progress properly in the first place.
Quite literally after the DMA was discovered, it was practically put to the side.
You can use the main storyline and have secondary characters express themselves. You don't need downtime from the main story to do that.
The writers simply failed to use their cast as they should. Instead, they divide the lines between the most 'important' cast members and that's it.
LOL. OK, you go with that. Not my problem if you can't pay attention.When?
Other than Spock, the TOS cast were a group of gimmicked extras with zero development. Uhura is only getting a backstory this year in Strange New Worlds.