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Spoilers Book of Boba Fett [Spoiler Discussion]

Just how did Max get off of Jabba's Sail Barge anyway?
Successfully! ;)

Seriously though it's not like the thing suddenly blew up unexpectedly; by the time Leia shorted the blinds and started choking Jabba, it was already pandemonium (nobody even tried to stop her!) By the time she was done, it was just her, the droids and salacious crumb still below decks, and on deck it was just the few remaining guards.
We don't see where everyone else went, but "piling off the far side of the sail barge away from the crazy Jedi and the man eating monster pit" seems like the logical choice for anyone choosing life. If anyone was still lingering below at that point, the sounds of the engines being blasted would probably have inspired them to dive out of the nearest hatch.

Bib also made it out, so there were probably others. They either hoofed it back to civilization on foot, or grabbed the second skiff after the smoke cleared (assuming it wasn't destroyed in the sail barge explosion.)
 
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As far as I'm aware the only named alien who died in the Sail Barge explosion other than Jabba himself was Ree-Yees. The rest got off before the explosion and I'm guessing scurried off into the desert and some back in the direction of Jabba's Palace.
 
So.. Apparently the voice if luke is a simulation .. As in a computer generated version made up of his earlier stuff instead of newly recorded dialogue.
Only problem I had with it was it didn't sound like he was outdoors. Like he recorded in a closet.
 
So.. Apparently the voice if luke is a simulation .. As in a computer generated version made up of his earlier stuff instead of newly recorded dialogue.
Only problem I had with it was it didn't sound like he was outdoors. Like he recorded in a closet.
Yeah, that was all covered in the Disney Gallery episode way back in July. IIRC the dataset they're using is a series of audiobooks Hamill recorded back in the 80's, which is probably why it sounds a little flat. It's getting better though. Defiantly noticed more inflection and emotion this time around.
 
Heck, most of them were hangers-on and spies. I doubt many could fend for themselves with a blaster against a Jedi with lightsaber or even a blind man who can't aim straight.
 
More to the point; why would they even want to take on a religious nutter with a laser sword? They're there to get drunk and/or high while watching an execution, not tangle with someone they already watched kill a rancor with his bare hands, and only just saw take down Boba Fett without even a backwards glance. Only the Garamoreans are that blindly loyal/stupid.
The second those blinds dropped it was every self-serving hanger-on (and legendary musician) for themselves!
 
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So.. Apparently the voice if luke is a simulation .. As in a computer generated version made up of his earlier stuff instead of newly recorded dialogue.
Only problem I had with it was it didn't sound like he was outdoors. Like he recorded in a closet.

I wonder if it would have been feasible to hire Mark Hamill to record the dialog, for more lifelike results. The issue is that oftentimes when an actor records new dialog for a version of one of their characters from decades ago, the difference in their voice is quite noticeable. Like with the Star Trek TOS computer games done twenty five years after the series. But in this case, Hamill is an accomplished voice actor, very good at altering his voice. I don't doubt that he could convincingly do a younger version of his own voice.

Kor
 
I'd split and flee the Sail Barge. I'm not getting killed by some kid with an '80s haircut and his friend with a seven-foot ape that can fire weapons.
 
I'm liking this show much more than the negative reaction online had me expecting.

Maybe it's cos I'm getting old, and Bobby Fett is no spring chicken, and I relate to his fish out of water crime lord life:lol:

Those people online likely enjoy the show as well. They are still butthurt over Gina Carano and won't admit it.
 
I wonder if it would have been feasible to hire Mark Hamill to record the dialog, for more lifelike results. The issue is that oftentimes when an actor records new dialog for a version of one of their characters from decades ago, the difference in their voice is quite noticeable. Like with the Star Trek TOS computer games done twenty five years after the series. But in this case, Hamill is an accomplished voice actor, very good at altering his voice. I don't doubt that he could convincingly do a younger version of his own voice.

Kor
Or they could probably have him do it, and then just play with it a bit to make it sound more like he did in Return of the Jedi. I had assumed that was what they did, I didn't know about the audio book.
 
Or they could probably have him do it, and then just play with it a bit to make it sound more like he did in Return of the Jedi. I had assumed that was what they did, I didn't know about the audio book.
They tried that already. It was weird. Remember that he's 70 now. Nobody sounds the same at 70 as they did in their 20's, if for no other reason than you tend not to have all the same teeth anymore. Especially not when a person spends most of their adult life doing things like this, this, this, and this with their voice!
 
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So what is everyone's predictions for tomorrow? Just recently read an interview with Temuera Morrison saying he wants season 2 to be about Boba hunting for Mace Windu. Which I already said I would love to see. Not only for Mace but to actually see Boba get off world and have some adventures.
 
Yeah, that was all covered in the Disney Gallery episode way back in July. IIRC the dataset they're using is a series of audiobooks Hamill recorded back in the 80's, which is probably why it sounds a little flat. It's getting better though. Defiantly noticed more inflection and emotion this time around.

Is any of this Luke actually now Hamill in any way then?
 
So what is everyone's predictions for tomorrow? Just recently read an interview with Temuera Morrison saying he wants season 2 to be about Boba hunting for Mace Windu. Which I already said I would love to see. Not only for Mace but to actually see Boba get off world and have some adventures.
I'm kinda hoping Bane comes out of this alive. It would kinda suck to finally get him in live action, only for him to be killed off in the next episode. I would be surprised if there's any more surprise character appearances (except maybe Bossk?) Bane's entrance seems a little hard to top.

Part of me hopes Luke will show up to drop of Grogu at the end of the episode, after the dust has settled. As cool as it would be to have some Jedi vs Bane action again, probably better from a storytelling POV not to have him repeatedly showing up to rescue the main characters.

Other than that, I kinda think Fett may actually loose this fight, at least in the short term and have to flee the planet. With Bane, the Pykes and the Twins in play, it'd be weird to tie it all up in one episode.

That's interesting. I guess Jack Palance in Shane might be another reference point?
Probably not especially, at least beyond the broad tropes of western black hat characters in general. Dave has always been explicit about the Lee Van Cleef inspiration, and I think a little bit of Bogart in there too.
Is any of this Luke actually now Hamill in any way then?
He was on set and in costume for his season 2 appearance. We won't know what the deal is this time around until they start releasing BTS material. I think he also recorded the dialogue in the "egg" (a sort of mini-volume/multi-camera performance capture apparatus) and that performance is what the AI was using as a blueprint for it's sample reconstruction, the same way a deepfake program has to learn the face it's mapping onto as much as the one it's replacing it with.
So this time around I suspect it's basically the same; he's there as a consultant/coach for the performance artist and probably laying down the basic dialogue and performance reference.
 
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Since Luke turned up last week, I've been thinking about the old post about how Luke taking down Jabba wasn't just to rescue Han, it was personal.
It’s not just that he carries out the plan—he carries it out with extreme prejudice. He doesn’t merely rescue his friends, he slaughters Jabba’s whole entourage. He slices people open left and right, he knocks them into a pit where they will be slowly and painfully devoured, then directs Leia to a gun turret that will blow the sail barge sky high. It doesn’t seem very Jedi-like does it? So why would he do it? Why would he so callously murder all those (admittedly not very nice) people? It’s true that they were complicit in the capture and humiliation of his friends, but there’s more going on here:

“I used to live here, you know.”

Let’s give this a good long think. Luke lived on Tatooine, and knowing that, we can also know for certain that Luke grew up with Jabba’s name on his mind. That he grew up knowing better than to cross the path of anyone who worked with or for Jabba, that he heard about what happened to innocent people on his planet who did. Luke knew exactly who Jabba the Hutt was, how he hurt people, how he ruined their lives. He had a chance to eradicate the world of Jabba, and he took his shot. He didn’t want to be nice about it—he wanted to be efficient.
I don't know, maybe it's a little attach-y to give a shit about what happens after you Jedi into your hometown and overturn the corrupt local power-structure and just leave again for some new gangsters to start oppressing everyone, but I'd like to think Luke has enough investment to care if his actions have led to Tatooine becoming a worse place to live or if things are going to work out. On the other hand, such a reaction (and the complex emotional interactions among characters necessary to portray it) will depend on if Luke has been all wooden, charmless, and generally prequel-y because of technical limitations, or because the writers and directors genuinely want him to come off as a distant, aloof space-god, and not as the exuberant, passionate, and occasionally gleefully petty man we saw in five movies. Given how Boba's own arc in the show has been sub-subtext, I think it might be the latter, and this show simply doesn't have the emotional bandwidth necessary to put Luke Skywalker and Boba Fett into a room, have them figure out how to have bygones be gone, and decide they both want the same thing for the planet, completely ignoring whether they have the practical capability to have Luke perform such a scene. At best what we'd end up with is them just teaming up with no acknowledgement that Fett tracked and froze Luke's best friend and brother-in-law* and haded him to a murderous gangster, and Luke sent Fett tumbling into the gullet of a sand-monster, they'd just love each other off the bat because it's been so long all the fans will have forgotten everything but how much they like both characters and so two characters they like liking each other is even better.

*As I've seen going around, just imagine Grogu's accusingly sad big eyes when he sees Leia, Han, and Ben drop by Luke's academy for a visit. "Oh, Grogu, this is a work meeting. I swear, if I didn't deal with these people professionally, I would have no need or desire to see them."

I honestly don't know how this Ashoka show is supposed to work, since everything post-TLJ has seemed to indicate Lucasfilm both needs to use legacy characters, and is too terrified by those legacies to do anything with them.
 
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