General Trek Questions and Observations

[Ray Hardgrit]

There are 4K AI upscaled clips on YouTube right now and it apparently takes around an hour per minute (or two days per episode) to go from SD to 4K on a decent computer.

All the fan made Star Wars remasters make me think that scanning the original footage is just as possible, though it will require a daring heist. And recreating the CGI at 4K on a home PC is absolutely possible as well.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

And recreating the CGI at 4K on a home PC is absolutely possible as well.

That's what I thought. We are coming to a point where if TPTB don't do it quick, they won't be able to monetise it because it's already been done.

I guess by 2030 latest, a skilled fan could do a 4K upscale from home.

 

[Oddish]

Just a thought... in 11001001, Riker was on the holodeck, romancing Minuet. But it was established at the end that a computer generated holodeck character couldn't have her sweet, sultry desirability. It required a person to bring her to life. So I just want to know... which Bynar was "playing" Minuet?

Personally, my money's on Zero Zero.

 

[fireproof78]

I think this is probably a commonly discussed question, but I was thinking about the kind of HD upgrade VOY/DS9 so sorely need, even though it's nowhere near even getting started.

How far are we technologically from the point where a fan could do it? I know there are already AI upscaled efforts out there, but how far away are we from being able to produce a 4K remaster from home software/ Or will it always be impossible?

I think it will verge on the impossible without the original. It can only upscale so far with the given information, which means some measure of the originals (scans or films) are needed to do some measure of justice beyond just an enhance effect.

Does anybody here still watch those nutjob YouTubers, like that infant who wears that silly mask? Doomcock, was it? Or that angry lady with the red hair? The ones who were forever telling their marks, sorry, subscribers, that Discovery had been cancelled, Kurtzman had been escorted from the lot by security and that there'd be no more Star Trek because of how many millions CBS had lost on it?

Because I'd love to know what they say now, after all the content that's being churned out, but I like myself too much to put myself through listening to them.

They still post, and sadly when one searches YT for Star Trek Discovery you inevitably find their shlock. Their audience is probably smaller now that Discovery continues on but those who agree with them will find a way to make it last.

I suppose the inflexibility of the mask? Or maybe down to Roddenberry wanting to avoid Bug-eyed Monster cliches?

I know from photos that they keep the costume around. It is curious it didn't even show up in the background again? Maybe they just felt it didn't work?

I believe it was largely consider nearly unworkable, heavy, awkward and difficult to make believable.

 

[Tenacity]

but I like myself too much to put myself through listening to them.

But you will take the time to post about them.

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Lower Decks Season 2 premiered on August 12th of last year, and there was only one week since then that we’ve not had a new Star Trek episode available.

With the new debut dates we’ve been given, from last year’s premiere of Lower Decks S03 through the end of Strange New Worlds S01 on July 7th, we’ll have had new Trek for 47 out of 48 straight weeks (and 53 episodes), which is pretty rad.

It’s now pretty much yearlong new weekly Star Trek, which many of us have been looking forward to since the full line up of current shows was first made official.

 

[Coops]

But you will take the time to post about them.

Yes, because that takes less time.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Looks like the older Star Trek TV shows are all gone from Hulu now.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume CBSAA has those now?

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Looks like the older Star Trek TV shows are all gone from Hulu now.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume CBSAA has those now?

Yeah, they’re all available on Paramount+/the Streaming Service Formerly Known as CBSAA.

Netflix still has DS9 and TNG, ‪‪I believe, but everything else left, and I think the other services like Amazon and Hulu have lost all their Trek.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I'd think about buying the blu-ray set for ENT amd DVD sets for DS9 and VOY, but even the later DVD sets for those 2 are only 480p if I'm reading it correctly.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I bought all the Deep Space Nine DVDs under the assumption that the way my luck goes they'd immediately announce that a HD version was in production and my discs had become obsolete overnight. Didn't work, sorry. 480i is the best you're going to get.

Well okay my DVDs are region 2 so they're 576i, but I feel like they probably have even less quality due to the video being converted from a US format.

 

[gweeps]

Voyager's Bliss is one of the creepiest ideas in the franchise.

 

[Oddish]

And creepily carried out, as the whole crew happily joins the Wormhole Cult, even to the point of hunting Seven. And add points for Morgan Shepherd as the Captain Ahab, hunting a very large whale.

It also managed to show a small bit of continuity, with Naomi having her Flotter doll. For Voyager, that's about as much as you get.

 

[1001001]

Voyager's Bliss is one of the creepiest ideas in the franchise.

“Creepy” can also be great.

The Thaw is a perfect example.

 

[fireproof78]

I hate it when Trek does creepy. It's not a combination I find enjoyable.

 

[gweeps]

“Creepy” can also be great.

The Thaw is a perfect example.

That wasn't a criticism. I also loved the recent Lovecraftian elements at the end of Picard, season 1.

 

[NCC-73515]

That's the first time I read anything positive about the supersynth tentacles

 

[gweeps]

That's the first time I read anything positive about the supersynth tentacles

It reminded me slightly of the Babylon 5 movie, Thirdspace. But I love the idea of aliens from other dimensions and I wonder if they know about each other?

 

[fireproof78]

It reminded me slightly of the Babylon 5 movie, Thirdspace. But I love the idea of aliens from other dimensions and I wonder if they know about each other?

Could be interesting. I liked the AI tentacles too.

 

[1001001]

Don’t get me wrong, the Flying Spaghetti Robot was incredibly stupid, IMHO.

But yes there are definitely times where creepy can be effective.