Star Trek Final Frontier Animated, could/should this be looked at again?

[valkyrie013]

http://www.startrekff.com/overview/
Looking for something different to do in 3d, I was looking through concept art, and found, again, the final frontier Enterprise concept.
Found the above site, that has all the scripts and storyboards and concept art, I found myself thinking, could this show work now in the current Kurtzman era? My answer, Yes.

Now, since it was barely above the concept stage, with a few scripts, it would necessarily start almost from scratch, using new technology, etc.
So the concept, we're in 2528, went to war with Romulans, again, in 2460, now this part might not work since Picard shown the empire destroyed. but who knows. The war was started supposedly by the Romulans by detonated a bunch of Omega particles. This could work, as it could naturally heal itself over time, or show the series come up with a way to cure sub space as its not there in the 32nd century.
But apparently the war went on for decades, and there was a peace treaty, and the federation went Full Military, closed there borders, isolationism, etc.
This could work, in that, in the time between Picard and Disco 32nd century, there is plenty of time to show the federations ups and downs. Not going to have all the time being a golden age, happy feely time. Your going to have downs, this could be one, after decades of war, they start to reach out again and explore.

This concept could work today. Prodigy is aimed at younger kids, Lower decks is aimed at .. well i don't know, old people? Not an easy entry show for kids.
This show could bring in teenagers, early adults, something more serious. early adult themes, etc.

Your thoughts? could this show work in the current era?

 

[XCV330]

I don't think it would work now (or then) without so much retooling it wouldn't even be the same project. People are tired the Romulan thing, if they weren't before, PIC is going to make sure we are, eventually. The story line now seems a little too close to the Burn. The ship designs are just ugly. I try to find something positive, but when it comes to those Enterprise ideas, I really don't know what they were thinking. "Make it look like something from Space Invaders"

As much as people complain about modern Star Trek being dark, this one is a cave with the flashlights out. Its an interesting concept from the time period, and it makes sense they almost attempted it. BBC briefly brought Dr Who back on the a web page the same way with Shalka, but abandoned future productions once the show was resurrected.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Everyone thought The Burn was an Omega war and I recall a couple of people referring back to this animation as potential inspiration.

We don't really need 2 apocalypses in Trek's distant future. That said, I liked a few of their ideas like M.A.J.E.L. and the B.U.G.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I liked the idea at the time, but I don't see how it would work into the current canon.

 

[Kelso]

The Starfleet uniforms were the only part of this I liked.

 

[The Wormhole]

Honestly, I was always very Meh towards this idea, so I'm not bothered with it being left forgotten in the past.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I know it's a bit offbeat but I'm rather enamoured with the 'hammerhead' Enterprise. Never seen any of this stuff before, so regardless of feasibility, thanks for sharing!

 

[somebuddyX]

As a comic book? Sure. I think it's time has passed as a series but I think it would be wild, and I think this for all of those Trek projects out there who blew up before they left spacedock, just make a comic book. Make one for Robert Orci's whatever that was. Make one for Spock kills Kennedy. Make one for The Beginning. I really loved reading The Star Wars by J.W. Rinzler and I wish there were more things from pop culture like that. But money, licensing, cost, profit, etc blah.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Make one for Spock kills Kennedy.

I want this comic book!

Is that not one of Roddenberry's early movie ideas?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

As a comic book? Sure. I think it's time has passed as a series but I think it would be wild, and I think this for all of those Trek projects out there who blew up before they left spacedock, just make a comic book. Make one for Robert Orci's whatever that was. Make one for Spock kills Kennedy. Make one for The Beginning. I really loved reading The Star Wars by J.W. Rinzler and I wish there were more things from pop culture like that. But money, licensing, cost, profit, etc blah.

This is a great idea actually. It'd be a way to get all these roads not taken and failed pitches out to people so that they can see what might have been. I had no real interest in watching the cartoon, I didn't want this to be Star Trek's actual future, but I'd read a comic book.

 

[somebuddyX]

I want this comic book!

Is that not one of Roddenberry's early movie ideas?

It's what he wanted to do as Star Trek II. The Klingons alter the timeline by saving Kennedy which leads to no Federation and in Star Trek's present they've taken over Earth. The Enterprise warps back in time to try to fix it but crashes in Canada. Other stuff happens. In the end Kennedy has to die to restore the timeline.
https://trekmovie.com/2016/11/28/gene-roddenberrys-abandoned-star-trek-ii-film-concept/
It's sometimes called Star Trek III because well uh
I made this last year.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

It's what he wanted to do as Star Trek II. The Klingons alter the timeline by saving Kennedy which leads to no Federation and in Star Trek's present they've taken over Earth. The Enterprise warps back in time to try to fix it but crashes in Canada. Other stuff happens. In the end Kennedy has to die to restore the timeline.
https://trekmovie.com/2016/11/28/gene-roddenberrys-abandoned-star-trek-ii-film-concept/
It's sometimes called Star Trek III because well uh
I made this last year.

Aye, that’s it! I think I read about that in the big book of quotes that was published around the 50th anniversary.

Beautiful poster!

Some of the weirder ‘never-were’ Star Treks definitely would be of interest to many and I think a comic-book/graphic novel would be a great medium for them.

 

[Amasov]

When I think about where Star Trek was back then, I thought this was a welcome and refreshing idea. I thought it was different and just what the franchise needed at the time.

 

[The Wormhole]

Make one for Spock kills Kennedy.

Is that not one of Roddenberry's early movie ideas?

And people wonder why fans have a negative opinion of Roddenberry as a storyteller.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

And people wonder why fans have a negative opinion of Roddenberry as a storyteller.

I've more a negative opinion of Roddenberry's treatment of women TBH. I think few would hold him up as a paragon of Trek writers, but I have an interest in ephemera of all kinds and his ST:II treatment would fall under that.

Clicking the link above though, I could do without Spock's Mother being brutally gang-raped by Klingons. Why did he always just have to jam shitty stuff like that into a story?

Of note. Red Dwarf actually did go there, regarding the Kennedy thing IIRC.

 

[FederationHistorian]

It would work as a miniseries. Particularly since the Ent-J and the Sphere Builders War happen only two and a half decades later. Meaning the Enterprise in Final Frontier is the Ent-I.

The Romulans work as antagonists, since it’s been seen that there are Romulans that are not welcoming of the Federation in PIC, 60 years before the Federation-Romulan War breaks out. And could be an additional explain how the Vulcans and Romulans were able to reunify and become Ni’Var, outside of Spock’s involvement with reunification. And since Andoria gets destroyed due to this war, we could get an origin story to the Emerald Chain.

And the backstory would make for an interesting inversion of the outcome of the Earth-Romulan War, with the Federation being the isolationist & militaristic one, while the Romulans become the ones interested in peaceful exploration and alliance building.

A rough century between 2460 and 2560 is workable. There are bound to be ups and downs and not every era is going to be like TNG. What’s proposed is a show that set between two significant conflicts instead of a war show,.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I've more a negative opinion of Roddenberry's treatment of women TBH.

Agreed. If Gene Roddenberry were still alive, #metoo would have destroyed him.

Honestly, to me, the whole "Kennedy Must Die" thing just felt a little too much like Edith Keeler rehash writ large.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Honestly, to me, the whole "Kennedy Must Die" thing just felt a little too much like Edith Keeler rehash writ large.

Aye, especially when you throw in the Guardian from the same story.

Harlan did love legal action, so it would have been a shitstorm from multiple angles.

 

[somebuddyX]

It would work as a miniseries. Particularly since the Ent-J and the Sphere Builders War happen only two and a half decades later. Meaning the Enterprise in Final Frontier is the Ent-I.

I feel like you could just not worry about Sphere Builders because that war would have happened in an alternate future, one where there was a Delphic Expanse stretching across 50000 light years. Some people also make the point that maybe Enterprise-J only looked like that in that timeline, but I could go either way.

I know it's a bit offbeat but I'm rather enamoured with the 'hammerhead' Enterprise.

Me too. The Dragonfly is pretty cool too but is that partly because it's a Workbee and a Starfury welded together.

I also like this one's chunky saucer. One day I'm going to model a TNG-era ship with a saucer like that.

 

[BillJ]

It was an intriguing concept at the time, but that time has passed.

And people wonder why fans have a negative opinion of Roddenberry as a storyteller.

I have negative opinions on Roddenberry as a human being, but he was quite a creative storyteller. Not everything landed, but we wouldn't be here without "The Cage".