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Trek XI has Good Will Hunting vibe?

Jimmy_C

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Anyone else getting a "Good Will Hunting" vibe from the movie. That is, a movie set on a college campus about the students and faculty there? Based on the spoilers so far, it seems to be about Kirk's campus experience at Starfleet Academy. I just don't see the Enterprise being a major part of the movie until the last act like in Star Trek IV. I'm not sure how exciting or entertaining that kind of movie will be.

There is the B-plot of Romulan interference from the future; however, that doesn't seem to be at the heart of the movie. The core is the relationship between Kirk and Spock. The time-traveling menace seems to be just a plot device to visit the different parts of Kirk's and Spock's lives. This kind of movie could be very good drama, but it could also end up with boring self-absorbed drivel.
 
Not at all. The impression I get is we'll get some scenes with Kirk at the academy, but I doubt VERY much the bulk of film will be about their time in Starfleet Academy.
 
we will probly get a Superman aproach to the movie, as far as origin goes starts off the Romulans doing whatever they do to go back in time , Old Spock follows somehow, then you have a kid Kirk, Kid Spock, Academy Kirk and Spock Then move on to The Enterprise , kinda like Superman 1
 
Having read a bit of the script, he might be on to something...



Kirk: Are we gonna have a problem here?

Finnegan: No, no, no, no! There's no problem here. I was just hoping you might give me some insight into the evolution of the moneyless economy in the deep space colonies. My contention is that prior to the Romulan War, the economic modalities, especially in the outlying colonies, could be most aptly described as agrarian precapitalist.

Kirk: Let me tell you something -

Spock: Of course that's your contention. You're a third-year cadet; you just got finished reading some Aurellian historian, Aleek-Om probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'til next month when you get to John Gill. Then you're going to be talking about how the economies of Vega and Pacifica were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 2140. That's gonna last until next year; you're gonna be in here regurgitating T'Kara, talkin' about, you know, the pre-Romulan War utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

Finnegan: Well, as a matter of fact, I won't, because T'Kara drastically underestimates the impact of social -

Spock: "T'Kara drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially wealth in non-replicated goods"? You got that from Grey's "Work in Berengaria Colony," page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing, you come into a synthale bar, read some obscure passage and then pretend - you pawn it off as your own, as your own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?

See, the sad thing about a guy like you is, in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're going to come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life: one, don't do that, and two, you dropped four years on a f***in' Academy education you could have got for free at Memory Alpha!

Finnegan: Yeah, but I will be a Starfleet Officer. And you'll be servin' my kids protein cubes at a replimat on our way to a skiing trip to Rigel X.

Spock: That may be, but at least I won't be unoriginal. But I mean, if you have a problem with that, I mean, we could just step outside - we could figure it out.

Finnegan: No, man, there's no problem. It's cool.

Spock: It's cool?

Finnegan: Yeah.

Spock: Cool.

Kirk: Fuckin' damn right it's cool. How you like me NOW?

McCoy: My green-blooded boy's wicked smart!
 
Having read a bit of the script, he might be on to something...



Kirk: Are we gonna have a problem here?

Finnegan: No, no, no, no! There's no problem here. I was just hoping you might give me some insight into the evolution of the moneyless economy in the deep space colonies. My contention is that prior to the Romulan War, the economic modalities, especially in the outlying colonies, could be most aptly described as agrarian precapitalist.

Kirk: Let me tell you something -

Spock: Of course that's your contention. You're a third-year cadet; you just got finished reading some Aurellian historian, Aleek-Om probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'til next month when you get to John Gill. Then you're going to be talking about how the economies of Vega and Pacifica were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 2140. That's gonna last until next year; you're gonna be in here regurgitating T'Kara, talkin' about, you know, the pre-Romulan War utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

Finnegan: Well, as a matter of fact, I won't, because T'Kara drastically underestimates the impact of social -

Spock: "T'Kara drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially wealth in non-replicated goods"? You got that from Grey's "Work in Berengaria Colony," page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing, you come into a synthale bar, read some obscure passage and then pretend - you pawn it off as your own, as your own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?

See, the sad thing about a guy like you is, in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're going to come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life: one, don't do that, and two, you dropped four years on a f***in' Academy education you could have got for free at Memory Alpha!

Finnegan: Yeah, but I will be a Starfleet Officer. And you'll be servin' my kids protein cubes at a replimat on our way to a skiing trip to Rigel X.

Spock: That may be, but at least I won't be unoriginal. But I mean, if you have a problem with that, I mean, we could just step outside - we could figure it out.

Finnegan: No, man, there's no problem. It's cool.

Spock: It's cool?

Finnegan: Yeah.

Spock: Cool.

Kirk: Fuckin' damn right it's cool. How you like me NOW?

McCoy: My green-blooded boy's wicked smart!
bla, bla bla , way too long to read,but funny none the less
 
You guys are too literal. The film is about the relationship between Spock and Kirk while at the Academy. The message of the film, its theme, will probably involve them. According to the spoilers, it started as an adversarial relationship, but we all know it eventually turns into one of friendship and trust. I suspect most of the film involves Kirk's time at the academy. How Kirk starts as an underachiever but eventually becomes the Captain Kirk of the series... In that way, this is much like Good Will Hunting.

The whole bit about the Romulans and old-Spock is just a way to get the audience there. Much like Kirk in Generations, they are a link from old-trek to new-trek. Nero isn't even in the film that much. For much of the movie, I suspect old-Spock and the Romulans will be in the shadows - secretly manipulating events "behind-the-scenes." Just like the Probe in Trek IV was an excuse to showcase an adventure on 20th century Earth, the time travelers are there to introduce the audiences to these important events in Kirk's life.

Kirk's character growth while at the academy is probably one of the main themes of the new movie. It it takes place mostly at the academy, then it will have that "varsity" coming-of-age feel of Good Will Hunting and other movies set on school campuses. Does that make more sense?
 
You guys are too literal. The film is about the relationship between Spock and Kirk while at the Academy. The message of the film, its theme, will probably involve them. According to the spoilers, it started as an adversarial relationship, but we all know it eventually turns into one of friendship and trust. I suspect most of the film involves Kirk's time at the academy. How Kirk starts as an underachiever but eventually becomes the Captain Kirk of the series... In that way, this is much like Good Will Hunting.

The whole bit about the Romulans and old-Spock is just a way to get the audience there. Much like Kirk in Generations, they are a link from old-trek to new-trek. Nero isn't even in the film that much. For much of the movie, I suspect old-Spock and the Romulans will be in the shadows - secretly manipulating events "behind-the-scenes." Just like the Probe in Trek IV was an excuse to showcase an adventure on 20th century Earth, the time travelers are there to introduce the audiences to these important events in Kirk's life.

Kirk's character growth while at the academy is probably one of the main themes of the new movie. It it takes place mostly at the academy, then it will have that "varsity" coming-of-age feel of Good Will Hunting and other movies set on school campuses. Does that make more sense?

Please stop. You don't know anything about the way the plot points fit into the film's narrative. So, no, I don't agree with your assumptions or your GWH conclusions.
 
Not unless they have Kirk mopping up the Kobayashi Maru simulator one night when he decides to secretly solve it. So, part of it takes place at the academy; Are we supposed to get a 'Revenge Of The Nerds' or 'Animal House' Vibe too?
 
I was hoping Trek XI would have more of an Animal House meets Back to School with a slight touch of Dead Poet's Society vibe, but that's just me.
 
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