What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[fireproof78]

everyone

Um, no. I have not cared as much for this new direction.

 

[ThankQ]

I like Sonny Clemmonds. He realized before Offenhouse that there was a tense situation brewing, and tried to rein him in, instead of causing trouble. I like to think that he revitalized his career in a successful way. Just wait till he discovers synthehol.

And I don't know if Offenhouse realized that the Romulans didn't know who attacked the border outposts before Picard did, he just verbalized the thought whereas Picard kept the realization to himself.

Sonny does not swim in anyone else's soup.

 

[cooleddie74]

That's something his ex-wives do.

 

[ThankQ]

We won't be inviting these ex-wives to our party, will we?

 

[cooleddie74]

No. That would not be...appropriate.

 

[ThankQ]

Much obliged.

 

[cooleddie74]

[*Drinks replicated martini with TWO olives*]

 

[ThankQ]

[*for the vitamins*]

 

[cooleddie74]

[*Banjo string twangs*]

 

[GNDN18]

Not too controversial but this might have been a good show had it actually been made.

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[plynch]

Those are great! I went to the group’s website.Fascinating!

 

[eschaton]

TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise all got better after the first two rocky seasons. TNG strengthened their writing, DS9 got the Dominion War in gear and began heavy diving into serialization, Voyager had some showrunner changes and got its best stories as well when they delved into Borg and Hirogen territory (as opposed to Kazon or VIdiian fare). Enterprise completely revamped its showrunners for the better, and learned from both DS9 and Voyager. TNG, DS9, and Voyager all had issues with Season 7, lower quality and higher pay for the actors seems to have a correlation.

I honestly see no notable quality jump in DS9 in the third season. I found it watchable from Season 1, though it was notably rockier with more recycled TNG reject scripts and not much serialization of storylines. But there was already a big jump up in Season 2, with few genuine clunkers and some of the best episodes of the series (Neccessary Evil, Blood Oath, and The Wire). I think it was also the darkest season overall - Piller seemed to be behind the dour tone, and once IRA took the reins we started having more comedic episodes.

Season 3 was also good, but other than the introduction of the Defiant wasn't too different overall. Imho Season 4 was more of a tonal shift.

 

[Annorax849]

I honestly see no notable quality jump in DS9 in the third season. I found it watchable from Season 1, though it was notably rockier with more recycled TNG reject scripts and not much serialization of storylines. But there was already a big jump up in Season 2, with few genuine clunkers and some of the best episodes of the series (Neccessary Evil, Blood Oath, and The Wire). I think it was also the darkest season overall - Piller seemed to be behind the dour tone, and once IRA took the reins we started having more comedic episodes.

Season 3 was also good, but other than the introduction of the Defiant wasn't too different overall. Imho Season 4 was more of a tonal shift.

Yep, imo DS9 was the only “second generation” show that didn’t have a significant improvement in season 3. A slight increase, but both 2 and 4 were bigger improvements

 

[Sci]

I could see Earth as the Federation's Washington DC.

I really dislike this idea. The political setup of having D.C. be a federal district without representation in Congress and without the inherent right to govern itself that states have (Congress can contravene Acts of the Council of the District of Columbia that they could not contravene if D.C. had statehood) means that more than half a million people are effectively disenfranchised. I would seriously hope that United Earth would be an equal Federation Member State rather than an administrative division of the UFP central government. (And indeed, the fact that United Earth later seceded from the Federation in the 31st Century strongly implies that it was not just a "federal district.")

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Speaking of controversial Trek opinions and DS9, I prefer Babylon 5 over Deep Space Nine. There I said it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I really dislike this idea. The political setup of having D.C. be a federal district without representation in Congress and without the inherent right to govern itself that states have (Congress can contravene Acts of the Council of the District of Columbia that they could not contravene if D.C. had statehood) means that more than half a million people are effectively disenfranchised. I would seriously hope that United Earth would be an equal Federation Member State rather than an administrative division of the UFP central government. (And indeed, the fact that United Earth later seceded from the Federation in the 31st Century strongly implies that it was not just a "federal district.")

Well, I didn't mean it quite that literally.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Speaking of controversial Trek opinions and DS9, I prefer Babylon 5 over Deep Space Nine. There I said it.

 

[Sci]

Well, I didn't mean it quite that literally.

Fair! Not gonna lie, I was picturing an Earth full of people protesting not being able to elect legislators to the Federation Council.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

The thread did say controversial.

 

[Sci]

I love DS9 and B5 both. They're ultimately doing different things but they do their own things well, and I'm glad I get to live in a world with both of them.

But I want a new space station show! It's been twenty years and all the space shows are still ship-based! Especially the new Star Treks.