I'm 54 and I've loved every bit of it.
“Made for teenagers?”
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Well, it has been 34 years and one month since TNG premiered. Someone who "grew up" watching TNG... let's say that phrase encompasses kids who turned 18 the year "All Good Things..." ended. That means they would have been 11 years old when "Encounter at Farpoint" premiered in 1987. So they would have been born in 1976 -- 45 years ago. Assuming they had kids at a normal age range (let's say starting when they were about 24)... that means they would have started having kids in 2000, 21 years ago.
So, there are not only teenagers out there with parents who grew up watching TNG -- there are fully-grown adults out there with the legal right to drink alcohol whose parents grew up watching TNG!
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In fact, given that there's almost certainly a percentage of people who had children earlier in life than 24, there are almost certainly children today whose grandparents grew up watching TNG...!
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Most teenagers don't even have Paramount+
I'm 43 and I like Lower Decks...
Of course there are things I'm not particularly a fan of, but I pick and choose my way through all the series. There are probably only 30 or so TOS episodes that I watch regularly, even though it's my favorite series. And more than a few that I just can't stand watching at all. TNG has a lot of misses too -- like Masks -- but also some of the best Trek ever made -- like Who Watches the Watchers and Darmok.
I will say that, of the current four running shows, Lower Decks is the most like the Star Trek I grew up with and I'll probably watch and rewatch it for years to come. (That said, I do understand folks who aren't huge fans of the other series. I watch Discovery and Picard and Prodigy, but they all lack a certain something that appeals to me. I like the shows, but I don't love them, and seriously doubt I'll rewatch them after the initial run. But that's okay because, as somebody upthread pointed out, I'm not the target audience).
Of course there are things I'm not particularly a fan of, but I pick and choose my way through all the series. There are probably only 30 or so TOS episodes that I watch regularly, even though it's my favorite series. And more than a few that I just can't stand watching at all. TNG has a lot of misses too -- like Masks -- but also some of the best Trek ever made -- like Who Watches the Watchers and Darmok.
I will say that, of the current four running shows, Lower Decks is the most like the Star Trek I grew up with and I'll probably watch and rewatch it for years to come. (That said, I do understand folks who aren't huge fans of the other series. I watch Discovery and Picard and Prodigy, but they all lack a certain something that appeals to me. I like the shows, but I don't love them, and seriously doubt I'll rewatch them after the initial run. But that's okay because, as somebody upthread pointed out, I'm not the target audience).
They clearly want teenagers to be able to enjoy it, but also clearly care about pleasing the long term fans of the franchise as well.
I'm... 
and I like LD. 
So does my Grandpappy!
and I like LD. So does my Grandpappy!
I know that my 13 year old nephew, who’s a little more on the kid side of things than teenager still, and my 18 year old niece, both really enjoy Lower Decks. It brought my nephew into the larger Trek fandom, and is a show he enjoys rewatching.
>being insulted by the idea that what one enjoys could be for teenagers.
I'm an adult Dutch male and I read romance fiction intended for teenage Chinese females al the time, and it is exquisite.
I happen to find that teenage Chinese females have far superior taste in this than adult Dutch males.
I remember it was also often said that StarGate: Univese was “for teenagers”, which seemed to hold little more meaning than “I don't like it.”.
I'm an adult Dutch male and I read romance fiction intended for teenage Chinese females al the time, and it is exquisite.
I happen to find that teenage Chinese females have far superior taste in this than adult Dutch males.
I remember it was also often said that StarGate: Univese was “for teenagers”, which seemed to hold little more meaning than “I don't like it.”.
Whenever I see older fans complain that something is too teen-friendly or kid-friendly, I'm always tempted to ask how old they were when they first got hooked on STAR TREK, STAR WARS, comic books, or whatever. And where they think future fans are coming from? (Says the guy who watched wide-eyed as a child when Captain Kirk first fought the Gorn and ran into the greek god Apollo in outer space.)
"They're making STAR TREK for millennials, damn it."
Uh-huh. And what millennium do you think we're living in now?
"They're making STAR TREK for millennials, damn it."
Uh-huh. And what millennium do you think we're living in now?
If they are teenagers, wouldn't it be Gen-Zers they are targeting? Trek for millennials would be Bermantrek.
Absolutely true! I grew up in that era, getting into Trek primarily with TNG, and at 39 I’m an “elder” Millennial. It always makes me laugh when I see (often politicians) refer to Millennials as if they’re tweens, and not those of us born between ‘81 and ‘96.
I think the majority of complaining about/mockery of “Millennials” I’ve seen have been comments that were exclusively targeted at Zoomers, and mischaracterized due to a complete misunderstanding of how old Millennials are.
I think some people (like Greg Cox, surprisingly) use the word Millennial to refer to those born in the new Millennium, rather than those who "came of age" around the beginning of the new Millennium.
No it isn’t. No pre-teen should be watching or expressing the kind of humour that is in this show.
Man buzz off. Don’t insult the people who like this show.
I think you’re right. It does make sense as a name for the post-millennial generation.
It almost feels contrarian to use it to me, just because it’s been applied to the generation following Gen X’ers since the the late ‘80s, though I’m certain it’s just a common lack of familiarity with the term’s previous usage in generational theory.
It's the sort of humor designed to be accessible to a wide range of ages.
It seems to be more adult-oriented than something such as Spongebob Squarepants or Teen Titans Go which tends to mix in humor and references that many young children would miss, but simultaneously would not include the type of violence and sexual references that Lower Deck has as well as the useless bleeps to keep the censors happy.
Bleeps aren’t forced on Lower Decks by censors, they’re a comedic choice from the creator of the series.
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