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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I could see him in She-Hulk and Echo. Though I'm not sure how Matt and Jen would face each other in criminal court, as mentioned in the article. Maybe in civil court? I guess there is a trope where TV lawyers are experts in all areas of the law. But I'll leave that for fans who actually know about the legal field.
Yea I think it would be a civil case unless Jen is working for a DA's office. My guess is they're taking inspiration from a Matt vs Jen court-room case from the comics where a wrongful death claim (civil suit) was filed against Captain America and Matt was the lawyer of the plaintiff suing Steve while Jen was defending Steve.
 
Cant see them using the yellow and red DD suit from the early comics. Never thought it worked for a guy called Daredevil.

But originally it wasn't "Daredevil" with the "devil" part stressed -- it was just Daredevil, in the traditional sense of the word as a recklessly daring, fearless person (hence "The Man Without Fear"), or a circus performer who does death-defying stunts. So it made sense to give him the kind of flamboyant costume that a circus daredevil might wear, just as it made sense in 1938 to dress Superman like a circus strongman.

That actually bugged me about the Netflix series. They rode so hard on the "Devil of Hell's Kitchen" angle that they failed to adequately justify the etymology of the name "Daredevil," a word that has far more to do with reckless feats of derring-do than anything Satanic. So it was kind of a non sequitur when the full name was finally introduced in the show. I know the more "devilish" stuff was emphasized from Frank Miller's run onward, and that's what the show built on, but in the comics, all that was preceded by Matt's original characterization as a daring, devil-may-care action hero, so in that context the name made sense.
 
But originally it wasn't "Daredevil" with the "devil" part stressed -- it was just Daredevil, in the traditional sense of the word as a recklessly daring, fearless person (hence "The Man Without Fear"), or a circus performer who does death-defying stunts. So it made sense to give him the kind of flamboyant costume that a circus daredevil might wear, just as it made sense in 1938 to dress Superman like a circus strongman.
He literally has horns on his head.
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I think the "devil" part is pretty stressed.
 
He literally has horns on his head.

I think the "devil" part is pretty stressed.

Present, as a visual pun, but not stressed. They called him "The Man Without Fear," after all -- the fact that it's his tag line tells you it's the part they were emphasizing. And come on, that's obviously a circus outfit he's wearing, with bright colors and a prominent logo; the horns are just a decorative element. Nobody would look at that getup and think "embodiment of the Prince of Darkness" rather than "guy on the flying trapeze." The Daredevil of the '60s was not the angsty, grim figure of the Miller era and after, but one of Marvel's many wisecracking, fun-loving crimefighters like Spider-Man and the Human Torch. Heck, he was written almost identically to Spider-Man, with a similar emphasis on acrobatics and rope-swinging and a similar sixth sense that could do whatever Stan Lee needed it to do that month.

But again, my point is not about the comics, it's about the Netflix show. Its justification of the origin of the name was based exclusively in the "Devil of Hell's Kitchen" stuff, and they never adequately explained why the press started calling him "Daredevil," a term that has more to do with fearless stunts and derring-do than with anything Satanic.

But then, DD season 1's writers seemed to have a poor understanding of name etymologies -- like the way they danced around "Kingpin" as if it were some goofy comic-book name they were ashamed of using, even though it's a perfectly commonplace, appropriate term for the most important figure in a criminal or other organization, and has been since the 19th century.
 
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