New Firefly...but a Reboot. Say it Ain't So.

[There Be Whales Here]

As much as some of us have been Jonesing for the return of Firefly, this news not really anything to celebrate IMO.

https://movieweb.com/heres-what-to-expect-from-the-firefly-reboot-from-disney-plus/

If it would have been a continuation with the original actors and storyline then...yah! But not another @#&*$! reboot/remake and all on a channel that will require one to pay out just to see a watered down Disneyfied version of what was once a gritty show geared towards adults.

I had read an article some time ago about a reconsideration of Firefly and obviously written to appeal to the SJW crowd that criticized the original show for such crimes as Mal's negative opinions of Inara's profession and using cultural appropriation due to the characters sometimes cursing in Chinese and how if the show were made today it wouldn't fly. I have no doubt the author was correct and the above article's speculation that the new version will be "family-friendly" I believe will also be true and take a lot away from what made the original so great.

Either way, I'm tired of this "everything old is new again" reboot/remake epidemic, whether it is movies or TV shows, as very, very few rise even close to the level of the original, let alone succeed it. In fact, off the top of my head, only the remake Lost in Space has been one of those rare exceptions in recent times. Wish I was more optimistic when I saw this, but I can say with confidence I won't be shelling out money to Disney to see it (especially given I'd have to first start wasting money for basic cable again before even adding plus channels).

Anyone have a different take and excited to hear this or do you feel "Meh" as well?

 

[Campe]

I’m not sure this is true. There’s no source for the announcement, no official announcement from Disney and the oldest article stating this is an “exclusive” from Giant Freakin’ Robot. Not the most reliable source.

 

[StCoop]

Anyone have a different take and excited to hear this or do you feel "Meh" as well?

Is there a single piece of evidence that there's any truth to it?

 

[fireproof78]

Here's the quote that stood out most:

Disney has largely kept quiet about the Firefly reboot, but they are planning to create the series. Because of the lack of official information, a release date, cast, and specific details haven't been confirmed.

There is zero information to based this off of. So, unless new news has been posted I would not be looking at a Firefly reboot any time soon.

 

[There Be Whales Here]

I’m not sure this is true. There’s no source for the announcement, no official announcement from Disney and the oldest article stating this is an “exclusive” from Giant Freakin’ Robot. Not the most reliable source.

Is there a single piece of evidence that there's any truth to it?

You may be right as to the veracity of it as many rumors of resurrected movies and shows never go anywhere and due to my feelings about this, I really hope it does turn out false.

But the discussion at hand is more of if it does turn out to be true how one feels about it and do you think it sounds worthwhile or that it's another reboot bad idea and will only be a shell of the original.

 

[Campe]

I loved Firefly.

I don’t need a reboot. Or a continuation. In my opinion, the time has long passed.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Oh, what's this, another sci-fi franchise Disney wants to mess up?

I'll say this, I was late to the game in watching it, and when I did, I didn't think it was THAT good. Interesting yes, but there is certainly better stuff out there now.

 

[There Be Whales Here]

I loved Firefly.

I don’t need a reboot. Or a continuation. In my opinion, the time has long passed.

True. While a part of me wishes there would have been more, Serenity pretty much closed the book on the story and the only way forward would be a reboot or a prequel, neither of which sound inviting. I only wish Hollywood would understand this.

 

[fireproof78]

If I were to reboot it then I would utilize some of the initial concepts that Whedon had and taking it a different direction, including exploring River more in relationship to the crew, becoming a pilot in Season 2, and exploring that would be interesting. I don't know if I would be excited but I would be curious.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I'm another that's not placing too much stock into this story.

Even so, ten years ago, I would have said "no gorram way" to anything like this, but now...ah...I think I'm a bit more open to the idea of a continuation of Firefly with a different crew. The only reason why I say this is because I share the earlier sentiment that Serenity brought closure to the original series and allowed Mal & the gang to ride off into the sunset. Their story is done, IMO. But I'm okay with the idea of a "Firefly: The Next Generation" with Serenity continuing on across the 'Verse with a new captain and crew. Not sure how many years or decades I'd like it to be set after the movie, but perhaps long enough for Mal & the gang to be legends in the new era...

...the now long-since obsolete and barely spaceworthy Serenity, perhaps not so much anymore.

 

[Steve Roby]

I had read an article some time ago about a reconsideration of Firefly and obviously written to appeal to the SJW crowd

You were doing so well.

that criticized the original show for such crimes as Mal's negative opinions of Inara's profession and using cultural appropriation due to the characters sometimes cursing in Chinese

Here's my main issue with those two things, as someone who's watched his Firefly DVDs a few times each and has all the books and comics. Whedon tells us one thing about his 'verse and then shows us the opposite.

Inara. We are told repeatedly that in Firefly's fictional world Inara's role is not just respected, it's prestigious. We also see plenty of scenes of romantic tension between Mal and Inara. Maybe I've been doing things wrong all my life, but I have never tried to start a relationship with a woman I like by repeatedly, angrily calling her a whore. This stuff doesn't just happen, it's written, it's down to Whedon. He created the notion that Inara's in a respected position, he created the connection between Inara and Mal, he created the way Mal talks to her. It is, frankly, kind of fucked up. The hero of the show treats the woman he loves like shit.

Chinese culture. Again, we are told one thing and shown another. We're told the 'verse is Chinese-dominated. We see virtually no Asians in the show. How'd that happen? You don't even have to talk about cultural appropriation, you can just say, hey, this doesn't make a lot of sense.

You don't have to be an SJW (not that there's anything wrong with that) to look at that kind of thing and think, what the hell is that all about? If Whedon didn't want to present a culture where prostitution is respected, he didn't need to say he was creating one. Likewise for the Chinese culture. He didn't need to say, hey, this is a Chinese culture and then not follow through in any meaningful way. He built the door, he pointed at the door and said hey, look at this door, watch me walk through it, I'm walking through it now, but turned around without going through the door.

Besides, a real SJW would probably point out that Firefly's portrayal of Mal is basically making a hero instead of a traitor out of a Confederate. An SJW might even suggest that the Chinese business is there to distract people from the whole nobility of the lost cause crap. Someone probably has by now, there's no shortage of articles online and elsewhere talking about Firefly's Confederacy stuff.

Anyway, while poking around Twitter, I saw some tweets saying pretty much the same thing as this article, but dated a year ago. The writer of the article has next to no experience covering this stuff; she just started writing for the website and has only seven articles published there so far. How the hell does she get this scoop? Or did she maybe see the tweets and not notice they were both old and supported by evidence?

 

[Captain pl1ngpl0ng]

i wouldnt mind a reboot and i would certainly watch it.

 

[BillJ]

But not another @#&*$! reboot/remake and all on a channel that will require one to pay out just to see a watered down Disneyfied version of what was once a gritty show geared towards adults.

I didn't think the original Firefly was "gritty" nor adult.

I don’t need a reboot. Or a continuation. In my opinion, the time has long passed.

This. Time has passed it by, moving on.

 

[The Wormhole]

This whole "family friendly Disney reboot of Firefly" is a rumor that's been circulating for over a year now. There's no evidence to suggest it's going to happen. But whatever, since we have a thread, anyone have speculation on what Disney starlets you'd cast in such a series?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I can't see the point in Disney rebooting Firefly when they have The Mandalorian and its spin-offs to cover the western sci-fi crossover genre. If they want to throw money at such a project I'd likely watch the result and judge it on its own merits. I doubt it'll happen though.

 

[UssGlenn]

But I'm okay with the idea of a "Firefly: The Next Generation"

Doing a new crew later in the same universe, is the only way I see it could work. doesn't have to be on Serenity, but it does need to be on the same type of ship, if they want to keep the title.

 

[Steve Roby]

I can't see the point in Disney rebooting Firefly when they have The Mandalorian and its spin-offs to cover the western sci-fi crossover genre.

That's a good point. A Firefly series would never get the attention a Star Wars series gets, but it can't be that much cheaper to produce, so why spend the money for relatively little return?

Doing a new crew later in the same universe, is the only way I see it could work. doesn't have to be on Serenity, but it does need to be on the same type of ship, if they want to keep the title.

Well, there's always the Firefly: Brand New 'Verse comic. No idea if it has any kind of canon imprimatur from Whedon.

 

[JD]

As much as some of us have been Jonesing for the return of Firefly, this news not really anything to celebrate IMO.

https://movieweb.com/heres-what-to-expect-from-the-firefly-reboot-from-disney-plus/

If it would have been a continuation with the original actors and storyline then...yah! But not another @#&*$! reboot/remake and all on a channel that will require one to pay out just to see a watered down Disneyfied version of what was once a gritty show geared towards adults.

You and the article seem to be jumping to a lot of conclusions here. And I think Disney's handling of things like Pirates of the Carribean, Star Wars, and the MCU has proven that not everything they release is "Disneyfied".

I had read an article some time ago about a reconsideration of Firefly and obviously written to appeal to the SJW crowd that criticized the original show for such crimes as Mal's negative opinions of Inara's profession and using cultural appropriation due to the characters sometimes cursing in Chinese and how if the show were made today it wouldn't fly. I have no doubt the author was correct and the above article's speculation that the new version will be "family-friendly" I believe will also be true and take a lot away from what made the original so great.

Not necessarily, I don't think any of this was bad enough to really be an issue.

Either way, I'm tired of this "everything old is new again" reboot/remake epidemic, whether it is movies or TV shows, as very, very few rise even close to the level of the original, let alone succeed it. In fact, off the top of my head, only the remake Lost in Space has been one of those rare exceptions in recent times.

There was also Battlestar Galactica, The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, and I haven't watched it but the new One Day at a Time also got a really good reaction. Those are the first two off the three off my head, but I'm pretty sure there have been others.

Wish I was more optimistic when I saw this, but I can say with confidence I won't be shelling out money to Disney to see it (especially given I'd have to first start wasting money for basic cable again before even adding plus channels).

I think you're confused, Disney+ has nothing to do with basic cable, it's a standalone streaming service. It's actually one of the more reasonably priced ones at, I think $6.99 or $7.99 a month.

Anyone have a different take and excited to hear this or do you feel "Meh" as well?

I doubt very, very much doubt this is happening, but

True. While a part of me wishes there would have been more, Serenity pretty much closed the book on the story and the only way forward would be a reboot or a prequel, neither of which sound inviting. I only wish Hollywood would understand this.

I don't know if I'd say the book was closed, the majority of the characters are still alive, Serenity is still flying, and the characters are still going to be needing jobs to get by. Hell, there have been 3 or 4 different comics series set after Serenity, even one so long after it that it follows Zoe and Wash's daughter as a member of a new Serenity crew.

 

[StCoop]

Well, there's always the Firefly: Brand New 'Verse comic. No idea if it has any kind of canon imprimatur from Whedon.

Who gives a fuck what that misogynistic sociopath thinks?

There's your real reason why you'll never see any more; between him and QAnon worshiper Adam Baldwin it's a tainted brand.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Doing a new crew later in the same universe, is the only way I see it could work. doesn't have to be on Serenity, but it does need to be on the same type of ship, if they want to keep the title.

Or it could be a case that Serenity is the last of the Firefly-class by this time. Serenity could be considered not only a relic, but an absolute antique.