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Star Trek Discovery Leaving Netflix For Paramount+ Internationally, season 4 global launch in 2022

France is shut out altogether for the moment. No announcement as to when we might be getting Paramount+. Apparently I’ll be waiting until I go back to Canada to watch the new shows. Which isn’t for another year yet.
 
On the subject of the Ferengi -
NOG: No, in the Great Material Continuum.
O'BRIEN: Who are they?
NOG: It's not a they, it's the force that binds the universe together.
O'BRIEN: I must have missed that class in Engineering School.
NOG: On Ferenginar, we learn about the Continuum while we still have our first set of ears.
O'BRIEN: This is no time for Ferengi fairy tales.
NOG: The Continuum is real. You see, there are millions upon millions of worlds in the universe, each one filled with too much of one thing and not enough of another. And the Great Continuum flows through them all like a mighty river, from have to want and back again. And if we navigate the Continuum with skill and grace, our ship will be filled with everything our hearts desire.

Whoever made this decision, they need to take a lesson from the Ferengi.

Oh, and one other thing - Customer service is a skill. A skill that is vanishing in the US. So, don't expect us to have stellar customer service. We don't have it and won't have it for the foreseeable future. It's rather sad, really, but there it is.
 
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Thank you for stating the obvious.
You're very welcome. Sorry, but sometimes the obvious is all there is. :p

I don't care about the motivations. All I care about is what I see myself or, in this case, what other people see. The whys can be rationalized into infinity. The people who are upset are right to be upset.

I would be pissed if it affected me. The rationales behind it be damned. This was handled badly. At the end of the day, entertainment is a service industry. And a lot of customers don't feel like they were well-served.

But I would say to them: Take it out on the people who let this happen, not Discovery itself.
 
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This is a business decision, they didn't do this to you personally. I am just as upset and was looking forward to watching S4. But then saying I am not watching any new Trek every again only really spites me.

It's been badly handled, it's been poorly communicated, we don't know the full details, maybe CBS really did want Netflix to carry it for one more season but Netflix low balled them. No company wants to create Ill will from their support base.
Indeed. While I am upset over it, taking it personally is a bridge too far. But, that's me. I don't ever take business decisions personally any more because I don't know Paramount's business, and they don't know mine.

What's more amusing to me is going through the 2000s and the complaints of having to pay for large cable packages for one or two channels. Now, it's the opposite-people want large packages instead of individual services. SMH.
This was handled badly. At the end of the day, entertainment is a service industry. And a lot of customers don't feel like they were well-served.
Indeed. Saying "never going watch Discovery again" sounds great-in theory. But, it demonstrates nothing to the people who made this decision.
 
https://deadline.com/2021/11/star-trek-discovery-netflix-deal-paramount-viacomcbs-1234875466/

According to this acticle it was ViacomCBS who pulled out of the deal. Not Netflix.

Thanks — this had interesting info. This caught my eye:
“No details were given of the deal that ViacomCBS and Netflix struck for the first three seasons of Discovery, but we hear it was in the healthy six figures.”

Kinda surprised they could buy back the show for less than a million bucks.
 
Indeed. Saying "never going watch Discovery again" sounds great-in theory. But, it demonstrates nothing to the people who made this decision.
Should be, "never going to pay extra to see Discovery again".
Because that is pretty much what CBS has done to themselves with this.
 
I was used to it with the animated shows ( not interested in those anyway).
And I could watch Picard at my sisters house (not interested in season 2 either).
I was expecting SNW to be another bother to find.
But I liked Discovery and was looking forward to it.

So with all these different platform issues and Treklit coming to an end of sorts,while there has never been more Trek in production,it has never been harder to access.
Amazing work there people.Fucking outstanding.
 
Thanks — this had interesting info. This caught my eye:
“No details were given of the deal that ViacomCBS and Netflix struck for the first three seasons of Discovery, but we hear it was in the healthy six figures.”

Kinda surprised they could buy back the show for less than a million bucks.
Not necessarily, as they would be balancing what monies had already been made for both companies against initial investment, and basically buying back the difference.

Should be, "never going to pay extra to see Discovery again".
Because that is pretty much what CBS has done to themselves with this.
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What will be most interesting to me is how many people will insist upon watching it anyway rather than actually making their frustration know to Paramount.
 
Twitter made its self quite clear today. The only other way of making your voice heard is to vote with your wallet and not pay for it.

In this case you literally can't pay for it.
I mean, fans in the states could not pay for it as well, and unsub and say why. I think that would be a fine show of solidarity.

But, as much as I appreciate that Twitter made itself clear that's a flash in the pan. People's attention spans are too short for that to make a difference in a long term business impact.
 
The launch map on Wikipedia looks absolutely disgusting.

The entire MEA region as well as South & Southeast Asia is missing completely, as well as Greece, Cyprus, Turkey and Iceland, not to mention the totally insignificant little markets of Japan, Korea and New Zealand. China maybe I can understand, but this? What business considerations justify launching the service in Belarus of all places but not New Zealand or South Korea?
 
Poland is getting Sky Showtime which combines Sky, Peacock and Paramount+ into one app and one service.

https://www.skygroup.sky/article/co...-service-to-launch-in-select-european-markets

This looks like a much better deal, content from 3 different providers.
Well, we'll see. It will launch in some countries in 2022. (Disney+, for example, still isn't available in Poland, so no Mandalorian for us. Showmax was here, but quickly disappeared.) In any case, I still don't see the value in cutting our access to the existing seasons of Discovery without offering anything in return.
 
The launch map on Wikipedia looks absolutely disgusting.

The entire MEA region as well as South & Southeast Asia is missing completely, as well as Greece, Cyprus, Turkey and Iceland, not to mention the totally insignificant little markets of Japan, Korea and New Zealand. China maybe I can understand, but this? What business considerations justify launching the service in Belarus of all places but not New Zealand or South Korea?


Global availability of Netflix:
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Global availability of Paramount+:
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Unless ViacomCBS announces that Strange New Worlds will be released on Amazon Prime, which they most likely won't, Strange New Worlds will not be available for the foreseeable future in the gray countries.
 
I would never get Paramount+ - Netflix and Disney Plus are sufficient. I've considered getting Amazon Prime.

How many of these bloody subscription services are people willing to fork out money for? I wouldn't know what else Paramount+ has on offer ... Blue Bloods? Transformers? :lol:
As Netflix just went from "Very little I want to watch" to "Absolutely nothing I want to watch" P+ is looking attractive by comparison.
 
If I understand Anthony Rapp's words correctly, the cast & crew only learned about this at the same time as everyone else.

Yes, they were in Germany really recently getting excited about the fans getting to watch

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Trek cast members - especially the newer and young ones like Rapp - really understand we live in a global village. The network execubots who are still in charge need to retire.
 
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