Star Trek Discovery Leaving Netflix For Paramount+ Internationally, season 4 global launch in 2022
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Correct. I don't really pirate anything now, despite having easy access to it, but I might not even bother going back to Discovery cause I'm not that big of a fan anyway.
What a mess. Delayed launch which will only drive people towards torrents. In addition, from 2022 onwards there will be access via Sky in several countries in the EU and in a larger one a new SkyShowtime service will be created from scratch. So congratulations to ViacomCBS and to Netflix for the PR.
OK, well nothing ST has done lately TV wise will get me to sign up to an extra streaming service just to get it, even if they move Picard and Lower Decks to the same service. Lower Decks is the only show I watch because I like it rather than out of a sense of obligation or hope it might improve.
I already have Netflix, Disney & Amazon, and between them they provide more than enough entertainment. So I guess that's goodbye to paying for Star Trek from me.
I already have Netflix, Disney & Amazon, and between them they provide more than enough entertainment. So I guess that's goodbye to paying for Star Trek from me.
If you want new Star Trek pay for Paramount+. It's as simple as that, with their goal of Trek all year round I have no issue spending £10 a month when it finally launches in the UK.
I get that a lot of people are angry, but this all just feels like when it was announced that Discovery would be behind a pay window, with same arguments and same claims that no one will sign up. And yet here we are with Multiple trek series in development.
People are carrying on like they have to subscribe to Paramount + permanently or like it's some insanely expensive service. In Australia, It's $8.99 which is half the price I pay for Netflix. Discovery basically airs for two months it will cost me $16.99 for 10 weeks of Disco and after that time I can unsubscribe if I want and resubscribe later.
Paramount has every right to want all of the IP they own under one roof. Netflix made a shit ton of money off of Discovery and I don't think they are entirely innocent in this whole conundrum given that Paramount had to buy out Discovery's contract. It's quite convenient that Netflix pulls Discovery two days before it is supposed to air internationally and months before it's latest competitor is ready to challenge them in the international market. Let's not make out Netflix to be some dinky 'little guy being railroaded by the corporate big wigs type'. It is anything but that.
People are carrying on like they have to subscribe to Paramount + permanently or like it's some insanely expensive service. In Australia, It's $8.99 which is half the price I pay for Netflix. Discovery basically airs for two months it will cost me $16.99 for 10 weeks of Disco and after that time I can unsubscribe if I want and resubscribe later.
Paramount has every right to want all of the IP they own under one roof. Netflix made a shit ton of money off of Discovery and I don't think they are entirely innocent in this whole conundrum given that Paramount had to buy out Discovery's contract. It's quite convenient that Netflix pulls Discovery two days before it is supposed to air internationally and months before it's latest competitor is ready to challenge them in the international market. Let's not make out Netflix to be some dinky 'little guy being railroaded by the corporate big wigs type'. It is anything but that.
That in no way excuses dropping it from Netflix the week of release after promoting it around Europe.
If I found out PIC dropped from Amazon last minute I would be pretty fecked off I didn't cancel it the day LD finished
Even with all the love for Star Trek, i will never support such business practices! So fuck them!
This is the main issue, plus the fact that details about Paramount+ launching globally are sketchy or non-existent in many places.
We all knew this was going to happen eventually when they rebranded as Paramount+ and announced international expansion plans, but we might have expected more than a couple of days notice.
They could have made this announcement months ago like they did with Prodigy. The suddenness smacks of a deal falling through because the parties were playing hardball.
Deal like this don't happen over night and as my mother would say 'you can't clap with one hand' Netflix is not an innocent party here. I believe the intent by Paramount + was for Netflix to continue airing Discovery until the European market was ready. Why else would they have spent a shit ton of money on sending the actors to europe etc.. to promote the show being on Netflix and openly state that the show would continue on Netflix internationally.
Why is no one considering the fact that Netflix dropped the show two days before it was to air so they could cause damage to a competitor?
The main issue is that people who are in other countries besides mine (USA) were expecting to see DSC S4 premiere on a certain day and then, at the very last minute, it gets pushed back. That's not cool.
This is the type of move Joe MacMillan from Halt & Catch Fire would pull.
See above. A month before could've gotten them the same result.
This is the type of move Joe MacMillan from Halt & Catch Fire would pull.
This is a business decision, they didn't do this to you personally. I am just as upset and was looking forward to watching S4. But then saying I am not watching any new Trek every again only really spites me.
It's been badly handled, it's been poorly communicated, we don't know the full details, maybe CBS really did want Netflix to carry it for one more season but Netflix low balled them. No company wants to create Ill will from their support base.
Everyone should remember that this isn't the first time that they treated international viewers like second class citizens.
1. No Short Treks Season 2
2. Restriction of Trailers and exclusive content to US viewers
3. Lower Decks Season 1 months after the US release
4. No Prodigy Season 1
5. And now taking off Disco from Netflix a few days before the release of Season 4
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...ayBvQQ5hMIBQ&usg=AOvVaw0JXbPNXQ4Tuc8wyCVFeHu9
1. No Short Treks Season 2
2. Restriction of Trailers and exclusive content to US viewers
3. Lower Decks Season 1 months after the US release
4. No Prodigy Season 1
5. And now taking off Disco from Netflix a few days before the release of Season 4
https://www.google.com/url?q=https:...ayBvQQ5hMIBQ&usg=AOvVaw0JXbPNXQ4Tuc8wyCVFeHu9
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The issue isn't P+ - it's been clear that that is the direction of travel for quite a while now where the shows will go. It's pulling Season 4 two days before it was to drop, after having the cast of the show in Europe to bang on about it. Speaks to a real lack of character in the business decision making loop around the fanbase.
When Lower Decks was delayed coming to international markets like Europe, it was known for a while it wasn't happening. This is different.
Fundamentally speaking I reckon they know a bunch of fans will just pirate S4 now, and they reckon if you're into it enough to pirate it you'll come crawling back later. Doubt it'll kill their bottom line, but just a crappy way to treat the fanbase.
When Lower Decks was delayed coming to international markets like Europe, it was known for a while it wasn't happening. This is different.
Fundamentally speaking I reckon they know a bunch of fans will just pirate S4 now, and they reckon if you're into it enough to pirate it you'll come crawling back later. Doubt it'll kill their bottom line, but just a crappy way to treat the fanbase.
Thank you for stating the obvious. I'm fully aware of what the issue is. I'm in Australia for crying out loud.
My whole point is why people think it's some nefarious plot by Paramount and not a nefarious lowballing tactic from Netflix
Meh, maybe it’s just someone at Netflix remembered to count and realized they would release a 4th season of something that isn’t Stranger Things.
Cannot have that.
Their axe swinger is contractually obliged to aim at anything with 3 seasons max.
Cannot have that.
Their axe swinger is contractually obliged to aim at anything with 3 seasons max.
Congratulations, Paramount. I'm a ST fan who enjoys paying for the content. I buy the novels, the comics, etc. Now there's no way for me to legally watch Disco because I'm in Poland ... and there's even no guarantee there will be one in 2022. Well, if you don't care, I won't...
It's been a shambles, but consolidation is the only way this will stop happening in the future. So at least they are starting to rectifing, even if it is in the worst possible way.
It's not a good look and always a bad move to raise expectations and anticipation only to cop out later. I think it was probably a business decision necessitated by whatever contractual obligations existing between the parties.
I'm hoping the same thing does not happen with PIC/LD and Amazon.
Piracy is a problem ALL OTTs have to face given the sheer number of OTTs and their exclusive content. Not many are going to subscribe to an OTT just for 1 show or movie. That's why they would need to introduce PPV (no brainer). It's incomprehensible to me why none of the OTTs anywhere in the world have implemented PPV for their entire library.
I'm hoping the same thing does not happen with PIC/LD and Amazon.
Piracy is a problem ALL OTTs have to face given the sheer number of OTTs and their exclusive content. Not many are going to subscribe to an OTT just for 1 show or movie. That's why they would need to introduce PPV (no brainer). It's incomprehensible to me why none of the OTTs anywhere in the world have implemented PPV for their entire library.
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