Prodigy is Confirmed Prime Timeline

[fireproof78]

I am hypothesizing based on presented evidence (what was said).
So, what, the Prime timeline can 'spawn' the Kelvin Timeline, but the K.T. can't have same uniform and combadge from the Prime timeline and about 13 years after the said uniform and combadge were seen in the Prime timeline?

Is there some kind of unwritten rule that says the Kelvin Timeline MUST be completely different from the Prime Timeline and that there is 0 room for the possibility the timelines could have actually 'aligned' somewhat the further away from the Narada's incursion point we get even though we have evidence from Trek itself which demonstrates that even if you do change one thing, certain things would still unfold in exactly the same or similar capacity?

I find it strains believability. Mileage will vary for others, but for me the exact same uniform without variation doesn't say Kelvin uniform. It says to me that the simplest explanation is a temporal soldier served in a time were that uniform was used.

Regardless of the possibility, I didn't for one moment believe that Prodigy occurred in the Kelvin universe. To me that's an assumption to excuse away lack of preference of the ship design elements.

 

[Deks]

I find it strains believability. Mileage will vary for others, but for me the exact same uniform without variation doesn't say Kelvin uniform. It says to me that the simplest explanation is a temporal soldier served in a time were that uniform was used.

And you say I'm the one making assumptions.
Kovach said NOTHING about Yor being in the 2360-ies of the Prime Timeline. He said Yor jumped FORWARD from the year 2379 of the Kelvin Timeline into the prime timeline.

And almost immediately after that he said that Yor ended up presenting with the same symptoms as Georgiou. To me; this would suggest he jumped into the prime timeline 31st century when the Temporal Wars were barely over and after experiencing the symptoms, he was apprehended (or he may have experienced symptoms after he was caught), and due to standing rules, they wouldn't send him back.

Regardless of the possibility, I didn't for one moment believe that Prodigy occurred in the Kelvin universe. To me that's an assumption to excuse away lack of preference of the ship design elements.

I thought about the possibility that Prodigy could have been in the Kelvin timeline... but I discarded that idea quickly because most new episodic Trek's are actually using the Prime Timeline. The Kelvin Timeline seems to be reserved for the movies.

 

[fireproof78]

And you say I'm the one making assumptions.

So am I. We don't have enough information.

 

[The Old Mixer]

The proper style is "2360s". The "ie" sound is already in "60".

 

[F. King Daniel]

All this because they used Kelvinverse-style nacelles?

 

[Oddish]

Maybe nacelle design simply lagged behind in the prime timeline.

 

[Ronald Held]

Once a timeline splits off from the PU, how do we know how much divergence between the two at any time? What would cause the Kelvin timeline to merge with the PU?

 

[Jesse1066]

Once a timeline splits off from the PU, how do we know how much divergence between the two at any time? What would cause the Kelvin timeline to merge with the PU?

Kelvin Timeline Annorax erases the Prime Narada, creating a new timeline that's indistinguishable from the Prime timeline. Without this sort of manual adjustment, I would expect the differences between the timelines to increase over time, not decrease.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I had to look up who TF Yor was, so I'll just leave this here:
Star Trek: Discovery | The Trek BBS

Here's a better link if you're looking for information about Yor, specifically. Combing through the Discovery forum would take a long time, and the search engine here doesn't allow for three-letter inputs.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Here's a better link if you're looking for information about Yor, specifically. Combing through the Discovery forum would take a long time, and the search engine here doesn't allow for three-letter inputs.

Not my intent in leaving the link to the forum. It was more of a hint.

 

[DaveyNY]

Not my intent in leaving the link to the forum. It was more of a hint.

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[Mr. Laser Beam]

Here's a better link if you're looking for information about Yor, specifically. Combing through the Discovery forum would take a long time, and the search engine here doesn't allow for three-letter inputs.

Every time I hear about Trek's Yor I keep wondering if it was an intentional reference to THIS Yor.

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[penguin44]

Who thought it wasn't in the Prime universe?

Indeed I had some doubts, not that it impacts how I enjoy the show. I was just like yeah Janeway and the Delta Quad but everything in the designs and music scream KT.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

I have real problems with Prodigy being in the Prime timeline (unless you take the theory that Prime is not the same os the original canon Trek timeline). The Protostar is WAY too advanced for the supposed origin point of the early 2380s. It looks more like what one would expect from STO's early 25th century time period.

 

[Tuskin38]

I have real problems with Prodigy being in the Prime timeline (unless you take the theory that Prime is not the same os the original canon Trek timeline). The Protostar is WAY too advanced for the supposed origin point of the early 2380s. It looks more like what one would expect from STO's early 25th century time period.

It’s an experimental ship, with experimental tech. There. That’s your answer.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

It’s an experimental ship, with experimental tech. There. That’s your answer.

That's a rather weak workaround, IMO. It works, but smacks of cop-out. Since we know time travel is part of this whole series' premise, I suspect that may be the ultimate answer.

 

[Tuskin38]

That's a rather weak workaround, IMO. It works, but smacks of cop-out. Since we know time travel is part of this whole series' premise, I suspect that may be the ultimate answer.

It came from the present day according to the creators. Why else would Janeway be searching for it?

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

It came from the present day according to the creators. Why else would Janeway be searching for it?

Well, it wouldn't be the first time they frakked up the continuity, I suppose. Are they still bound by the 25% different rule?

 

[Tuskin38]

Well, it wouldn't be the first time they frakked up the continuity, I suppose. Are they still bound by the 25% different rule?

That rule was never a thing. CBS debunked it a week after the rumour started. I’m also not sure how it would apply here if it was real.

And the continuity is fine, it isn’t fucked up.

 

[AnimationAdmiral]

The producers gave an interview recently explaining that the new technology is a direct result of all of the future tech and game changing faster-than-light tech and data that VOY brought back from the Delta Quadrant like quantum slipstream, coaxial warp, Borg transwarp, etc., which allowed them to traverse 70,000 light years in only seven years. “Endgame” changed everything by ensuring Voyager came back 14 years early. They’ve now had several years to study and implement the tech and designs, thus accelerating Starfleet’s development.

If anything, it would have been bad continuity to completely ignore “Endgame” and pretend that Voyager didn’t happen.