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People LOVE Picard and I honestly don't see it. Patrick Stewart is a fine actor, but, I never found Picard to be that likable of a character.
Same. Never saw the appeal, always felt condescending towards others, and full of hubris, to use the classical definition of the term. Hard to watch a show when the main character isn't that engaging.
 
Same. Never saw the appeal, always felt condescending towards others, and full of hubris, to use the classical definition of the term. Hard to watch a show when the main character isn't that engaging.

At first, I think it was more to do with Picard being 180 different from Kirk. He was the opposite in so many ways, but, he just wasn't likable at all in the first season. He definitely got better over time, particularly in season 5-7 and I'm sure that was a combination of the Michael Pillar writing staff + Stewart having a better grasp on the character.

Nevertheless, though, Jean-Luc Picard was never a favorite captain of mine nor have I ever found Patrick Stewart, himself, appealing. That isn't to say the man isn't a fine actor, I just never gravitated toward him or was ever particularly taken with any of his performances.
 
I think PIC Season 1 overall was better than any season thus far of DSC but yeah, I cannot excuse how bad the season finale was. This is the first time Trek has introduced a member of the Soong family and it sucked.

Controversial opinion: All of the Soong family except Data himself sucked. (Well, his 'mom' was alright from what I can remember, though not very memorable, either.)
 
Okay, let’s see…

Definitely looking forward to Discovery season 4.

Definitely looking forward to Strange New Worlds.

Picard has a lot to answer for. The last 2 episodes were a fucking dumpster fire of shitiness. The worst Star Trek ever. And this is coming from someone who ranks TNG as their favorite series.

The main draw for season 2 is Q. I’m not afraid to admit I love that character. So I will watch, but I’m starting off pissed at the bullshit ending of season 1.
I couldn't agree more. They built up this WONDERFUL story about 4 broken people that all find out in the penultimate episode that they were all broken by the same person behind the scenes, and have something to fight for...and then the two parter just wastes our time dashing all that awesome buildup.
 
I think Data's Death was Unnecessary and he should be revived as a Disembodied AI that have proxy bodies he can hop into as needed.

Similar to the EMH's Mobile Emitter paired with a floating Anti-Grav unit that is so common now in the 23rd & 24th century.

He can reform as a Hologram in any shape or look that he feels like.

Data should get his own Network Operating Center where he can create a Positronic Central Server Room or have his conciousness De-Centralized and spread amongst various StarShips as the ships AI.

Imagine what he could do for StarFleet if he was integrated into the StarShip or StarBase.
 
For me, the moment the Robot Spaghetti Monster turned out to be real, it was all over.

The Romulans being too fucking stupid to realize they were causing the very thing they were so afraid of…another goddamn Soong…come on!

Casually turning Picard into a robot (but somehow not having any robot powers?) and him easily accepting that over a cup of coffee was just the cherry on top of the shit sundae.
 
The Romulans being too fucking stupid to realize they were causing the very thing they were so afraid of
That one made sense to me, as well as Picard's robot body. Not exactly a new concept in the Trek universe. The Romulans are paranoid to the point of it being cripplingly so. The inability to see being the cause of your own fears is pretty classic anxiety behavior.
 
After years of trauma related to being turned into a Borg, AND speechifying to Soran about how death is a “truth of our existence. It defines us”…now it’s like “okay, cool as long as you didn’t extend my life or give me super strength or anything”? The matter gets no discussion or reflection at all?

That dog don’t hunt, Monsignor.
 
Yeah, that started with Asimov's Bicentennial Man, by far his worst robot story as far as I am concerned, the idea of a robot growing old and dying... Personally, I think it's stupid, it's like designing a car to be no faster than someone on foot.
 
An important element that was missing from the film was an exploration of Sybok's pain, what it was that made him vulnerable to being deluded and tricked by the false god. Also missing was a scene involving him coming to terms with his flaws and failures including having been duped by the entity, more than the hurried turnaround leading straight into him doing his pain mind thing on the enemy.
That would have been a hella better movie. :sigh:

controversial opinion: The Beehive hair-do is cool. It looks strange and even more sci-fi than it did before. I want the TOS era to have been this strange decade where everyone looked like the B-52s.
I see nothing controversial here! :hugegrin:

TOS beehives were works of art.
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Sure, there can be.

If you want your story to be laughably stupid.
Robot Cthulhu did/does not have to be stupid. It's in the execution.

That one made sense to me, as well as Picard's robot body. Not exactly a new concept in the Trek universe. The Romulans are paranoid to the point of it being cripplingly so. The inability to see being the cause of your own fears is pretty classic anxiety behavior.
Yup. Romulan paranoia is well-established. Self-sabotage as a plot point goes back to Oedipus (at least).

I wish I knew 20 years ago that it's a sign of anxiety though. I might've gotten treated sooner and made *a lot* fewer stupid mistakes!
 
(but somehow not having any robot powers?)
Picard didn't volunteer to be shoved into the Robot / Homonculus body, his ship mates decided that for him as a way to save his life. They deliberately put on some sort of safety limiters on his Homonculus body to not allow him to have any Android Level super powers which kinda suck.

If you're going to have your brain's memory engrams moved to a Biological Android (Bioroid) body, you should get some super human powers to go along with it, but sadly, they didn't want to give him any for obvious reasons (Patrick Stewart is old, can't risk him doing any action scenes), that's what you have the young folks on the set for =D
 
Picard didn't volunteer to be shoved into the Robot / Homonculus body, his ship mates decided that for him as a way to save his life. They deliberately put on some sort of safety limiters on his Homonculus body to not allow him to have any Android Level super powers which kinda suck.

If you're going to have your brain's memory engrams moved to a Biological Android (Bioroid) body, you should get some super human powers to go along with it, but sadly, they didn't want to give him any for obvious reasons (Patrick Stewart is old, can't risk him doing any action scenes), that's what you have the young folks on the set for =D
Honestly, when they introduced the idea that he had a terminal illness in the beginning, I thought it was the writers giving themselves a parachute if (God forbid) Patrick Stewart died during filming. Now if that happens during a midseason shoot, they'll have a deep fake it...which Paramount has shown themselves to be terrible at. When unpaid Youtubes can do a better job of a convincing Data in Picard...you know you've got amateurs working for you...But hey, the important thing is they're UNION amateurs!
 
Honestly, when they introduced the idea that he had a terminal illness in the beginning, I thought it was the writers giving themselves a parachute if (God forbid) Patrick Stewart died during filming. Now if that happens during a midseason shoot, they'll have a deep fake it...which Paramount has shown themselves to be terrible at. When unpaid Youtubes can do a better job of a convincing Data in Picard...you know you've got amateurs working for you...But hey, the important thing is they're UNION amateurs!
That's the only way you'll get hired, if you aren't part of the "Union", you won't be allowed to work.
 
That's the only way you'll get hired, if you aren't part of the "Union", you won't be allowed to work.
That was exactly my point. There's some very talented people out there that just aren't part of a particular union that can do a better job for free than these guys paid big bucks, just because they give back some of their pay as blood money to the union.
 
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