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Hey, I never noticed that before....

No reason, it seems to me. Flint simply lies - that's the story function of that character.

Heck, the first-ever thing he tells the heroes is a lie: Flint does not own the planet! (A Mr Brack does, and Flint doesn't want to admit to being that man.)

Timo Saloniemi
 
No, it isn't covered in shoulder-to-shoulder people: that is apparently only to be found at the underground cities, or the few mountain or beach resorts. But it isn't covered in conventional high-production farmlands, either.

Possibly food is largely grown underground, too. Perhaps the surface conditions are generally hostile to it? Would that sort of tech be valuable to the UFP?

Timo Saloniemi
Fair point, but all we really see of the planet's surface is various shades of brown - perhaps it is planting season? :biggrin:
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Then again, who knows what sort of uninspiring but nutritionally sufficient foodstuff the Gideonites are growing for their population? Probably some sort of algae. Or space-algae ;)
 
I did read that many, many years ago and how does that apply here?
Asimov postulated a method by which the very atoms of which matter is composed could be miniaturized. Miniaturized objects -- and people -- would retain all their original properties, and the mass would be reduced proportionally.

It's all a handwave, of course, but at least it's an attempt at a scientific rationale for shrinking things. The movie gave no explanation at all.
 
OK what about that episode of Trek where the Enterprise was shrunk down and plopped onto a table. Never mind it somehow didn't tip over, but just because it's small that's one hell of a strong table wouldn't its mass still weigh the same?

I'm close to the Timo position on this one, in saying that there is no actual shrinking involved.

I think Flint has a massive Transporter that suspends the ship in a pattern buffer. And the 3-footer is a just holographic projection of the ship's frozen pattern.

So the Enterprise can be held in suspension for a hundred years, and the 3D tabletop image weighs nothing. Note that there is no dialogue whatsoever to contradict this interpretation. Flint never says "Honey, I shrunk the ship." That's just the simplest visual assumption. Everything actually said on screen is compatible with the hologram hypothesis.

Kirk's face appearing on the main view screen? That must be poetic license or something. What Roger Moore called movie liberty.
 
OK what about that episode of Trek where the Enterprise was shrunk down and plopped onto a table. Never mind it somehow didn't tip over, but just because it's small that's one hell of a strong table wouldn't its mass still weigh the same?
Well I just saw Requiem for Methuselah and the Enterprise was at an angle on the table but I suppose it doesn't matter because they have artificial gravity even when in atmosphere. I have no explanation about the mass so I'm going with it was just a projection like the others.
My issue is that Flint had the power to do all that if we believe what we saw. Surely the Federation would have liked to have the power to shrink the enemy and put them in suspended animation. I mean Spock is amazed that Flint is Beethoven, Leonardo da Vinci, whatever but nothing is said about Flints great galaxy military game-changer. Frankly they could have left out the Enterprise shrinking and I would have been happier with the episode. It was unnecessary. Except to be "science-fictiony" or to sell more Enterprise models.
 
Well I just saw Requiem for Methuselah and the Enterprise was at an angle on the table but I suppose it doesn't matter because they have artificial gravity even when in atmosphere. I have no explanation about the mass so I'm going with it was just a projection like the others.
My issue is that Flint had the power to do all that if we believe what we saw. Surely the Federation would have liked to have the power to shrink the enemy and put them in suspended animation. I mean Spock is amazed that Flint is Beethoven, Leonardo da Vinci, whatever but nothing is said about Flints great galaxy military game-changer. Frankly they could have left out the Enterprise shrinking and I would have been happier with the episode. It was unnecessary. Except to be "science-fictiony" or to sell more Enterprise models.
On the contrary, this was a major point of the episode. Flint's great knowledge was a lot of why he was a recluse. He was that much more advanced than everyone else, because he'd been developing it all for thousands of years. Sure, the Federation might like to have gotten its hands on his weapons, as if they could have. You'd expect that someone that advanced would make sure they get nothing, ever, from him that he didn't allow. If we never hear about his teleport, shrink, and stasis ray again (and that's what it was), we can safely assume that all knowledge of how it was accomplished died with him.
 
On the contrary, this was a major point of the episode. Flint's great knowledge was a lot of why he was a recluse. He was that much more advanced than everyone else, because he'd been developing it all for thousands of years. Sure, the Federation might like to have gotten its hands on his weapons, as if they could have. You'd expect that someone that advanced would make sure they get nothing, ever, from him that he didn't allow. If we never hear about his teleport, shrink, and stasis ray again (and that's what it was), we can safely assume that all knowledge of how it was accomplished died with him.
I don't know why I like this episode so much. It has so many flaws.
So Flints great age increases his IQ, musicianship, artisticy, strength? I think if I lived for thousands of years I would never become a great artist. Its something you can't learn.
What the heck was Kirk doing in this episode? Was the Saurian Brandy spiked? Kirk's crew was dying and he was fooling around, fighting Flint seducing a young innocent. Looking through my 21st century eyes I question the morality of Kirk and Spock in this episode. Frankly Kirk spends this episode seducing an innocent, groping her after knowing her for what 2 hours and Spock alters Kirk's memory.
And what is it with Rayna. Surely she's attractive but not Kirk's usual type. Perhaps a different actress or better writing.
Also I think when they called Scotty on the ship someone should have looked sick - you know a bit of coughing up blood or something?
Not another Kirk I'm lonely episode. I don't get that Kirk is the kind of guy who wants to marry and settle down. Boo hoo Kirk - Spock don't fall for it.
It had lots of good things though.
You could understand Flints motivation.
I like the killer robot..
I like the reveal.
Although Kirk and Spock acted somewhat immorally in the episode their motivation was goodish..
 
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