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Shang-Chi And The Legend Of The Ten Rings: The Rising and Advancing of the Spirit

Isn't Shang-Chi a derivative of the character Bruce Lee played in "Enter The Dragon"? A James Bond, secret agent, martial arts movie. I think one of my brothers collected that comic book from the 70's and it was all about secret agent vs enemy agent stuff called "Masters of Kung-Fu". The trailer appears to be far apart from it's roots, but then again it could be more in line with his current comic run.
The creation of Shang- Chi was the result of Marvel attempting to get the rights for the Kung Fu television series in order to cash in on the martial arts craze of the 70s and failing. Instead, they licensed the works and characters of Sax Rohmer, most prominently Fu Manchu, and created their own character from there.
 
Isn't Shang-Chi a derivative of the character Bruce Lee played in "Enter The Dragon"? A James Bond, secret agent, martial arts movie. I think one of my brothers collected that comic book from the 70's and it was all about secret agent vs enemy agent stuff called "Masters of Kung-Fu". The trailer appears to be far apart from it's roots, but then again it could be more in line with his current comic run.
That’s my problem sometimes. I want Superman in the 40s, F4 and Fury in the 60s, Luke Cage and Shang Chi in the 70s and so on. I’m really out of touch where a lot of characters have actually been in the comics for probably 20 years.
 
So excited for this film, and to get some more representation in Hollywood. Only downside, I heard, is there isn't much for social commentary as Black Panther had. Which I can live with. It looks to be really entertaining. The kung fu should be really good too.
 
Isn't Shang-Chi a derivative of the character Bruce Lee played in "Enter The Dragon"? A James Bond, secret agent, martial arts movie. I think one of my brothers collected that comic book from the 70's and it was all about secret agent vs enemy agent stuff called "Masters of Kung-Fu". The trailer appears to be far apart from it's roots, but then again it could be more in line with his current comic run.
As mentioned, Shang-Chi is the son of Fu Manchu. He switches sides when Fu Manchu's enemy, Sir Dennis Nayland Smith, reveals to him the extent of his father's evil.
 
Just to expand on this, Enter The Dragon was arguably itself derivative of the Sax Rohmer stories especially Braithwaite, the British Intelligence agent (aka Nayland-Smith), and Han (aka Fu Manchu), the criminal warlord cooking up Opium in his dungeon.

The original Fu Manchu series was obviously derivative of Sherlock Holmes, with Smith standing in for Holmes, Petrie standing in for Watson, and Fu Manchu standing in for Moriarty. The series was arguably racist against the Chinese, but this needs context.

The British had done their usual in the 1800's attempting to gain a foothold in China. They funded opium production and used it to trade for tea and spices, both for profit and to destabilize Chinese society and undermine the Qing government. It needs to be kept in mind that there WAS a Chinese underworld, hence the idea of Fu Manchu as a mastermind behind it.

Rohmer was a journalist covering London's Chinatown in the 1800's and his stories were inspired by what he'd seen, so somewhat drawing on fact.. One-sided negative facts, and part of the propaganda we have seen time and time again for generations, and I'm sure we will see more of in the future.

The switch from Fu Manchu to the Mandarin is due to Marvel losing its license to Sax Rohmer's characters. From the comics I read in the 70's I'll miss Nayland-Smith and Black Jack Tar, but I think it's a fair adaptation that lets them move forward.

Note: I haven't seen the movie yet, I'm waiting for a night my son and I are both free.
 
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Yup. I was able to get a quick look at the opening paragraphs before I was locked out of the review but that's who they were referring to.
Not sure what our difference is (I very very rarely have any difference with you :) ) but I was able to read the entire thing. Yeah, Tony Leung +++.

I think we need to start a spoiler thread...
 
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It's probably because you're in Canada and I'm in the US. I bet you anything that's what it is...
 
I haven't had the chance to see the movie yet. We are hoping this weekend. But since Master of Kung-Fu was a series I had never actually read, I picked up some digital copies of Shang-Chi's first appearances to get a little bit of his comic book backstory.

The comics from 1974 took me back, I have to say. They are certainly a product of their time. The visual portrayals of the Asian characters (both art and coloring) are flat out racist. But it reminded me that few people who weren't Asian would have given that kind of depiction, or even the language used (terms like "yellow" and various descriptions of eyes), a second thought back then. In fact, having a series like Shang-Chi at all would have been considered progressive.

Reading the books did remind me of the Marvel style that I still miss from the 70's. I love how the stories are filled with internal monologues and narration. If feels like I am reading something. Shang-Chi's stream of consciousness reminds me a lot of the old Silver Surfer comics. Next issue I will be reading brings back an old favorite of mine, the Man-Thing, which I am kind of surprised has not made its way to the MCU at all.
 
I also wanted to mention that Shang Chi, according to the commercials has been #1 4 weeks in a row in the US, and has been the biggest grossing movie of the year (so far).

So glad to hear it...so , despite the pandemic, is making a respectable amount of money, and should be continuing for some time to come.
 
That is good for it, but it's also the only major US release in September. Venom is out today, Bond comes next week, The Last Duel the next week, Dune the week after that - September was empty, October is like a summer movie season
 
That is good for it, but it's also the only major US release in September. Venom is out today, Bond comes next week, The Last Duel the next week, Dune the week after that - September was empty, October is like a summer movie season
And in a sense Marvel will be competing with itself when it releases The Eternals In early November.
 
And in a sense Marvel will be competing with itself when it releases The Eternals In early November.

? How? Shang Chi will have been out for two months and Spiderman won't release for another 6 weeks. None of those will be stepping on each other's box office toes. Maybe audiences will be marvelled out by 3 Marvel movies in 4 months (4 in 6 months) but so far we haven't seen anything to suggest that.
 
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