Gotcha! Wonder if he'll be part of the upcoming shoots? Almost 30 days out, right?
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens
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Always 30 days out.
On a Tuesday.
I don't think his calendar is full of any other engagements.......
But his dance card is full of cons, grifts, and scams.
Here is every canon reference to Axanar from the original series:
There are no references to Klingons in Whom Gods Destroy. Other than a non-canon role playing game supplement that the vast majority of Star Trek fans have never seen a copy of, what's the basis for assuming that Garth was the hero of a pivotal battle in a war against the Klingons?
Indeed, the whole Four Years War concept comes from either the Spaceflight Chronology book, which FASA used for their timeline, (early 2200s for the TOS five year mission, or just FASA themselves.
It's in the Chronology, too? Boy, it's been a long time since I took that one off the shelf. Might be fun to see how completely its history sections have been overwritten by canon.
Why not the Klingons? It's a fictional war story and the longest running fictional bad guys in Star Trek are lethal, compelling and familiar. Just because LFIM is using them in his theoretical fan film doesn't make it a bad idea to have Garth fighting Klingons. Hell, he's gotta fight somebody, and since, as you pointed out, none of it's canon, until the IP holders name the enemy whoever's writing the story can choose whatever enemy he or she pleases.So it's only an assumption, sure, but it's a perfectly understandable one.
Well, I was thinking of this: "This drew me in the first place and I was really excited someone was attempting to show this on screen after so many years." After so many years of what?
It MIGHT be, it's been a long time since I've read it too.
It was years after I'd bought most of the FASA products that I realised their having the 5yr mission in the early 2200s, contrary to what was used in the Star Trek Maps set (2260s), was that it was that timeline that most fans thought was more prevelant, and was finally adapted by canon when TNG S1 was in said to be in 2364, overwriting FASA dates.
It was also somebody else's idea, which seems to be a recurring theme with LFIM.
So it's only an assumption, sure, but it's a perfectly understandable one.
I find the concept that the Axanar conflict has to do with the Klingons completely devoid of creativity. There’s a whole galaxy out there with unknowns and misunderstandings that could allow for a conflict. Not only that, there’s the exchange in “Whom Gods Destroy” that references Kirk and Spock becoming brothers:
One could interpret the discussion of the peacekeepers to be a larger tale and that wouldn’t necessarily be wrong. At the same time, what if the Battle of Axanar was a skirmish that potentially might have led to a civil war in the Federation? What if the Vulcans and humans were at an impasse and while Starfleet was forced to fight brother against brother leading to the peace accords there. It’s not a perfect fit but one can put a lot of that on cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs Garth.
Regardless, unless someone decides to do an official actual story (whose not LFIM), it can be left to one’s imagination.
One could interpret the discussion of the peacekeepers to be a larger tale and that wouldn’t necessarily be wrong. At the same time, what if the Battle of Axanar was a skirmish that potentially might have led to a civil war in the Federation? What if the Vulcans and humans were at an impasse and while Starfleet was forced to fight brother against brother leading to the peace accords there. It’s not a perfect fit but one can put a lot of that on cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs Garth.
Regardless, unless someone decides to do an official actual story (whose not LFIM), it can be left to one’s imagination.
Actually the Romulans were the longest running fictional bad guys in Star Trek, just saying.
This is true. For that matter, the Gorns have been around longer than Klingons.
True on both counts. I stand corrected.
So who would you pick to face Garth at Axanar?
Canonically, Federation first contact with the Axanar occurred in ENT "Fight or Flight."
The triglobulin harvesters who had attacked the Axanar were unknown aliens [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wik...rant_starships_(22nd_century)#Triglobulin_001]. There's plenty of potential for conflict between the Federation, other unknown powers in the area, and/or possibly including the Axanar themselves.
The triglobulin harvesters who had attacked the Axanar were unknown aliens [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wik...rant_starships_(22nd_century)#Triglobulin_001]. There's plenty of potential for conflict between the Federation, other unknown powers in the area, and/or possibly including the Axanar themselves.
And I ask again, who would you pick? I put that question to everybody here. For my own reasons I still think the Klingons are a good enough adversary for any fan narrative depicting the battle.
Although the choice of adversary is really splitting hairs. I've always said that telling the story of the Battle of Axanar is a good idea, and that's true regardless of who the enemy is. The only real problem with the idea is that an insane con man is the only one promising to depict it.
Powers who had never been named before. I think I implied that clearly enough.
Actually, no you didn't. Saying "There's plenty of potential unknown bad guys" is different from flat out saying "I would pick an unknown bad guy."