Not really, since it's just adapting the rather popular Marvel Zombies subfranchise (or whatever it is) from the comics.
For me, thinking things through is fun, and stories are less fun when their creators don't think things through.
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Not really, since it's just adapting the rather popular Marvel Zombies subfranchise (or whatever it is) from the comics.
For me, thinking things through is fun, and stories are less fun when their creators don't think things through.
It was the Black Order zombies.
Yeah, I rewatched it and I can see that now. But it really did look very close to the Snap effects so that's where my mind immediately went when watching it and even seeing Hope materialize with a giant ant didn't make the connection in my head that those black dots were all ants and not dust.
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As for the episode, I was kind of disappointed in this one. I like a lot of the character decisions but the more episodes we see the more I find this mixture of MCU voices and new voice actors really isn't working for me overall. This Spider-man in particular never once clicked for me. And the dialogue in this episode is just really bad, especially for Bucky.
Also, while the Marvel Zombies traditional concept has its own problems (and I really only read them as a sort of quirky halloween activity) I kind of feel like this version really gave up almost everything that made MZ unique relative to other zombie stories by making the zombies so much more generic. Sure, they still use their powers in reasonably intelligent ways, but there doesn't seem to be any semblance of personality left at all. We don't even see the smart ones (like Tony) using their intelligence beyond simply utilizing pre-existing technology.
For the MCU, I think it is the most they've gone into a horror direction like this, it's a step out of the comfort zone even if popular from the comics.
I don't get it when people talk about the MCU as a single uniform thing. It's always encompassed a range of different genres. Just look at WandaVision vs. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. They could hardly be more different in tone, style, and subject matter. I don't accept that there is a "comfort zone" for the franchise. It succeeds because it keeps trying new things.
Besides, this is animation, so they can probably go farther with the horror/gross-out stuff than they could in live action, since it's further removed from realism.
I guess Wandavision and Falcon and Winter Soldier reminds me of other MCU stuff. Captain Carter and T'Challa as Star-Lord remind me of other stuff. Maybe "comfort zone" isn't the exact right wording but it felt to me like something outside of what has come before it. I guess that's unremarkable but whatever.
The situation, maybe, but the character stories and beats were all firmly rooted in the MCU. At its heart, this was a story about Hope Van Dyne trying to fix a disaster that resulted from her and Hank's attempt to bring her mother back.
It's also interesting how it sidelines the "Infinity Saga" leads right away and focuses more on the new/remaining core players we can expect to see going forward -- Spidey (with Happy in his new Spidey-adjacent role), the Ant-Man cast, the Black Panther cast, Bucky, Vision and Wanda. In that respect, it feels very much in line with where the MCU is now.
This one was more ridiculous then I thought it would be. It just wasn't my cup of tea. I can buy those with natural powers being able to use hem; but the Stark Iron zombie able to coordinate with a zombie Dr. Strange and Wong (who can still both perform magic spells...)
Even my suspension of belief has limits.
Even my suspension of belief has limits.
I think this one had more to it than last week's, though it may be helped by me rewatching The Walking Dead.
It was good seeing Spidey in one of these.
It was good seeing Spidey in one of these.
I watched Captain Carter yesterday. Great take on the story. "so a dame and a flying Buick" 
Watching T'Challa right now. Howard The Duck, that's all I'm sayin'.
They're 2 for 2 so far. The TV aspect of the MCU hasn't had a dud so far.
Watching T'Challa right now. Howard The Duck, that's all I'm sayin'.
They're 2 for 2 so far. The TV aspect of the MCU hasn't had a dud so far.
As long as you don't include the pre-Disney+ shows. Let us bow our heads and contemplate Inhumans and season 1 of Iron Fist...
Didn't Hellstrom turn out to be a flop? I know I had zero interest in it.
I was commenting on quality rather than success/flop, and I've only seen the first two episodes of Helstrom and they were ok.
This one was more ridiculous then I thought it would be. It just wasn't my cup of tea. I can buy those with natural powers being able to use hem; but the Stark Iron zombie able to coordinate with a zombie Dr. Strange and Wong (who can still both perform magic spells...)
Even my suspension of belief has limits.
In the comic series the heroes were still intelligent as zombies, and still retained their personalities.
Did those, y'know, count as MCU shows? Do they tho? TBH, I don't remember them either way, so I stand by my statement
^ Yeah, those do appear to be considered second-class by TPTB.
I think they were making a joke about Tony being a team player. The smiley at the end makes me think it was a joke.
Or I could be wrong.
Just popping in to say that aside from the first episode, that I found somewhat by the numbers (though I was pleasantly surprised that Steve Rogers didn't disappear after being injured, and I enjoyed the Hellboy-esque twist at the end even if I wasn't sure why Hydra would go there...), I've been enjoying the series, more than I anticipated.
I was hoping that the Doctor Strange episode would include a reveal that it was actually him precipitating the situations causing Christine's death, either because he'd come to his senses or because, once he was revealted to exist, that it was the other Strange causing them to try to keep the universe from disintegrating. A little disappointed that they didn't run with that... Also, once DarkStrange became aware of Uatu's existence I was a little surprised he didn't try to add him to the menu as well.
After that and Zombies though, I'm certainly hoping the next episode will be a bit lighter in tone.
I was hoping that the Doctor Strange episode would include a reveal that it was actually him precipitating the situations causing Christine's death, either because he'd come to his senses or because, once he was revealted to exist, that it was the other Strange causing them to try to keep the universe from disintegrating. A little disappointed that they didn't run with that... Also, once DarkStrange became aware of Uatu's existence I was a little surprised he didn't try to add him to the menu as well.
After that and Zombies though, I'm certainly hoping the next episode will be a bit lighter in tone.
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