Are Blu del Barrio and Ian Alexander series regulars in season 4?

[XCV330]

Looks like it, there secondary characters but were major in S3.

Now for the bridge crew? nope. been there for 3 years and I don't remember there names. Some love for the Helm/Navagator but the rest.. Nope. Is it to much to ask for a B plot for the comunications officer? Or Tactical? Sheesh. Worse than Uhura, Sulu on TOS.

How long did it take for Sulu and Uhura to officially get first names? I don't recall any Sulu or Uhura based episodes, or movies.

They're not making 26 episode series anymore. That would be good or bad, but it does mean that there isn't room to really make an episode dedicated to Owo, Bryce, Detmer etc. They gave Airyam some time but it was just a blatantly telegraphed punch to make you feel sad when they killed her off in the same episode.

Considering they have had episodes dedicated to a lot of recurring cast, I think they've gone about as well as they could, and they've done a good job of letting you know the bridge crew about as well as you'd know a co-worker you don't socialize with but pass in the hallway on a daily basis.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Maybe they are too good to be regulars. They might threaten Michael Burnham's glory.

In my mind I heard "all for the glorification of Burnam's massive ego"

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[fireproof78]

Though in Where Silence Has Lease, he is referred to in dialogue as Lieutenant.

That's a rough demotion and still serving on the same ship. That's some Mariner level shenanigan's right there.

 

[mswood]

Here's the thing, Discovery has to date done 42 episodes.

For TOS that means we are at (not counting the Cage) The Deadly Years
For TNG we are at Q-Who
For DS9 we are at The Wire
For VOY we are at Basics Part 1
For ENT we are at Future Tense

Discovery has had far more characters that have had development than most of the series above (DS9 says yeah about that....). 2 Captains that were one year only, that had development, 1 Empress, 1 Klingon ruler, 1 Klingon Spy, 1 Admiral, 1 Legacy character and three additional cast members brought in in season 3. All of these characters have had more development in a span of 42 episodes than several characters in pretty much any Trek series (DS9 says about that...)

Thats in addition to of course the characters that have been there from (in all cases save 2), episode 3 of the series. So in reality for most of the cast Discovery is really only on episode 40. Burnham, Saru, Stamets and Tilly those are your to date 4 primary stars of Discovery. most Trek shows have had 3 to 4 primary characters. The ones that get the most development, the ones that get the most screen time. Culber might also fit this group, but is in roughly half the number of episodes, and the character s has had a lot of material to work with.

All Trek shows have had background performers, and secondary characters that very rarely are they presented much in the way of material. Discovery list of these characters have had more to do then what occurs in most shows and over longer periods of time.

In many ways this argument is like someone complaining that we don't know the full bridge crew on Lower Decks. Or complaining that on DS9 we only really had 4 characters on Ops that we knew, when clearly there were a lot of others.

 

[Therin of Andor]

He was only Conn Officer in Farpoint. Then he became Security Officer in Lonely Among us before becoming Transporter Chief in The Child, then finally Chief O'Brien in Unnatural Selection. Though in Where Silence Has Lease, he is referred to in dialogue as Lieutenant.

Yes, I know. I wasn't intending to give complete career coverage.

Or complaining that on DS9 we only really had 4 characters on Ops that we knew, when clearly there were a lot of others.

I always think its fun to consider that the actors who played Nog, Garak, Rom and Morn had whole episodes dedicated to them, but weren't even in the opening credits. Nog probably had more character growth than Jake Sisko.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Blu and Ian are representing Discovery at the Star Trek Day event along with Wilson Cruz. So I'd say they will both be regulars in season 4 and a big focus of the season.

 

[DaveyNY]

The thread answer is YES.

 

[DigificWriter]

Now for the bridge crew? nope. been there for 3 years and I don't remember there names.

That's a failing on your part.

The fact that DSC is the first ship-based live-action Star Trek series with a main cast of characters who aren't all bridge officers or Department Heads is part of what makes it great.

 

[The Wormhole]

The fact that DSC is the first ship-based live-action Star Trek series with a main cast of characters who aren't all bridge officers or Department Heads

That was only true in the first season, and even then, the main cast still included the Captain, XO, science officer, and chief of security. As it stands now, the Captain is once again the show's lead, and the cast includes who is presumably the science officer (Tilly), who probably is the CMO now (Culber) and who might as well be the chief engineer, Stamets, who despite not being an engineer is always taking charge in engineering and ordering around an actual engineer who outranks him, Reno.

 

[DigificWriter]

@The Wormhole For Season 4, DSC's main cast will consist of two Captains (Burnham and Saru), 3 officers assigned to the Sciences Division (Tilly, Stamets, and Adira), 1 medical officer (Culber), and 2 civilians (Booker and Gray), so your assertion that the series has gone back to the formula of its main cast of characters all being bridge officers or Department Heads is a false one.

Also, Stamets isn't in charge of the USS Discovery's Engineering department; he's in charge of its engines.

 

[fireproof78]

That was only true in the first season, and even then, the main cast still included the Captain, XO, science officer, and chief of security. As it stands now, the Captain is once again the show's lead, and the cast includes who is presumably the science officer (Tilly), who probably is the CMO now (Culber) and who might as well be the chief engineer, Stamets, who despite not being an engineer is always taking charge in engineering and ordering around an actual engineer who outranks him, Reno.

The biggest disappointment is Burnham as captain. That feels the most formulaic to me.

 

[Bornin1980something]

The biggest disappointment is Burnham as captain. That feels the most formulaic to me.

You know, I was disappointed that they didn't go Bryan Fuller's idea of Angela Bassett as captain. She joined 9-1-1 instead -- only to have what appears to be her police car stolen by Seven and Raffie in the new Picard trailer!

 

[XCV330]

The biggest disappointment is Burnham as captain. That feels the most formulaic to me.

I wonder how long she'll stay in that seat, however. So far it's been a revolving door.

 

[The Wormhole]

Also, Stamets isn't in charge of the USS Discovery's Engineering department; he's in charge of its engines.

Then why does everyone in the engineering department, including an officer who outranks him, take their orders from him? Hell, despite the fact that Stamets is only supposed to be in charge of the spore drive, he takes charge of all engineering matters, even ones not related to the spore drive, like construction of the Red Angel suit or any of the engineering stuff in the third season?

 

[Captain Crow]

Also, Stamets isn't in charge of the USS Discovery's Engineering department; he's in charge of its engines.

From season 1's "Choose Your Pain".

 

[Nerys Myk]

I thought that was a production error.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

From season 1's "Choose Your Pain".

WTH is "Organ 2A-5"?

 

[The Wormhole]

I thought that was a production error.

It was indeed.

 

[Steve Roby]

Now for the bridge crew? nope. been there for 3 years and I don't remember there names. Some love for the Helm/Navagator but the rest.. Nope. Is it to much to ask for a B plot for the comunications officer? Or Tactical? Sheesh. Worse than Uhura, Sulu on TOS.

How much do we know about Leslie on TOS? Ensign Gates was in 47 episodes of The Next Generation. Can you picture her? What do you know about her backstory? How many episodes had storylines featuring her? For that matter, Uhura and Sulu never got a b-plot. TOS didn't do b-plots. They got a rare bit of time off the bridge once in a while. This is just more criticizing of Discovery for something common to most Star Trek shows.

 

[Nerys Myk]

People assume that bridge crew means the same as it did in TNG and VOY. DISCO does it differently, The main characters were The Specialist, the XO, the Spore Engineer, the plucky Cadet and a junior doctor. Plus a rotating series of "Guests".