Spoilers First season 2 spy pic!
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Not a spy pic per se, but this was posted on Twitter by official sources:
https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1433845136165728258
https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1433845136165728258
Another one, a shot of a director's chair or actor's chair, it has a ship on it.
https://i.imgur.com/lkTeuiq.png
maybe an alternate reality Stargazer, or perhaps a Stargazer-A.
https://i.imgur.com/lkTeuiq.png
maybe an alternate reality Stargazer, or perhaps a Stargazer-A.
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Interesting choice for BQ. I guess it makes sense they didn’t go with Alice Kriege, but I think she still could have pulled it off. Saw a recent picture of her not too long ago, and she looks amazingly good for her age, even after all these years. And they would spackle enough putty and Borg makeup on her that she could easily look identical to her last appearance on the VOY finale.
Oh, well... Young minds, fresh ideas, an’ all that...
Oh, well... Young minds, fresh ideas, an’ all that...
I think the amount of prosthetics involved might be why Krige isn't returning to the role, if she was asked. Krige mentioned in an interview that the costume she had to wear was very painful as was the makeup. Krige is probably at the age where she just doesn't want to deal with that shit anymore. Suiting up and wearing that stuff for a 12 - 17 hour shooting day exhausts even younger and more experienced prosthesis actors like Doug Jones.
Makes sense.
Certainly looks like the Stargazer. I think we're likely to see her again, given what's known about the season.
She said she wants to play the queen again in 2014
It would have made more sense that there were different BQ's. After FC especially since we saw that one die.
The logical interpretation, and the one followed in the novels, is that the "Queen" is merely a specialized drone, a coordinating node within the Collective -- like the frontal lobe of the brain, which is responsible for coordinating the other parts of the brain and giving the whole thing its focus and direction. Not a person, not a leader of a nation like later Voyager mistakenly depicted the Queen, but just a central component of the whole, and replaceable like every other part of the Collective. The novels establish a software code called the Royal Protocol which makes a drone into the Queen when installed into it, with some physical transformation being involved as well. When one Queen dies, the Royal Protocol is simply downloaded into a new drone which takes over the Queen function.
Of course, that would mean there's no need for any two Queens to look alike, but Alice Krige and Susanna Thompson have both played two each (since Krige's Queen in FC and Thompson's in "Dark Frontier" were both destroyed, yet both came back as the Queen later on. So maybe sometimes clones are used, drones especially well suited to the Royal Protocol, perhaps.
I've often thought that Seven of Nine was in reserve as a potential replacement Queen, which was why she was in a special chamber at the heart of her cube when she was introduced, and why she showed more personality and autonomy than a normal drone even from the start.
a lot can change in 7 years
This is how I've tended to view the Borg queen(s), as it fits with the analogy of the Collective being similar to an insect colony in ways. I like the idea that the Borg use multiple queens to provide more control and redundancy, since a single queen would be more vulnerable to being killed off. The queen in "Unimatrix Zero" implied she had been physically assimilated as a youth, and presumably wasn't a queen at that point.
Although she was trying to manipulate a boy in Unimatrix Zero into accepting assimilation, so she may have been lying.
Then there's Dark Frontier, where the Queen says she was from Species 125. I guess that means this particular drone who became Queen was one of Species 125, since otherwise that raises questions of what did the Borg do for a Queen before they encountered Species 125.
Then again, for such a low species number, it's possible the Borg encountered Species 125 in their first week of exploring.
Then again, for such a low species number, it's possible the Borg encountered Species 125 in their first week of exploring.
Picard implies that each cube has it's own Queen, rather than there being one for the entire collective.
I never got that impression.
I assume each cube had its own Queen chamber for redundancy. Just for the off chance she’d want to go somewhere.
Why have an escape portal if each cube had their own?
Before the manga…or Voyager—I had this idea floating in my head that the (original) Queen had been a researcher into insectoid civilizations in a ship like the Raven…gleefully sacrificing her own mates perhaps along the way—-and was assimilated by the seemingly leaderless “Q-Who” type Borg…but that her knowledge of hive minds allowed her to turn the tables and somehow assimilate them…becoming their first Locutus. Like how the Daleks wanted an independent mind after all…if only for awhile.
She changed their culture so she is no longer in danger…but any long lost cube might see her as a parasite. We do see that kind of thing in nature. If I were to do a cross-over where the Xenomorphs from ALIEN found a cube their most inviting home…then you could have a fight between Queens. Alice’s character would be a Ripley type here…the only member of the Borg that sees a threat. The drones don’t even flinch when the facehuggers attach.
She programs the Borg to destroy outside invaders…only to herself be finally seen as an outsider and drone-i-fied as just another Borg.
They now become more fearsome.
Now that I think about it, Sigourney Weaver might look great as the Collective’s new leader…with cubes bombarding Hadley’s Hope from orbit after all…or perhaps leading TWO collectives against David, the Engineers and 8472.
She changed their culture so she is no longer in danger…but any long lost cube might see her as a parasite. We do see that kind of thing in nature. If I were to do a cross-over where the Xenomorphs from ALIEN found a cube their most inviting home…then you could have a fight between Queens. Alice’s character would be a Ripley type here…the only member of the Borg that sees a threat. The drones don’t even flinch when the facehuggers attach.
She programs the Borg to destroy outside invaders…only to herself be finally seen as an outsider and drone-i-fied as just another Borg.
They now become more fearsome.
Now that I think about it, Sigourney Weaver might look great as the Collective’s new leader…with cubes bombarding Hadley’s Hope from orbit after all…or perhaps leading TWO collectives against David, the Engineers and 8472.
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My presumption is that there are multiple Queens, that the Borg exist in cells, but not one per Cube. Cubes, in effect, are similar to honeybees or explorer ants, and the Queen is an AI, perhaps an emergent one, in charge of a Unimatrix or some other higher level of command. Voyager seems to display this, with one Queen commanding multiple Cubes.
But, if the Queen is an AI, not the person we see onscreen, it's possible that every Cube keeps a backup drone (maybe a cloned drone) in some chamber somewhere ready to download the Queen AI should she grace them with a visit.
Maybe for emergencies in case the cube is in danger of being destroyed while being cut off from the rest of the collective. The queen herself could be just as expendable as the cube under different circumstances but the knowledge of the events she takes back to the collective would be valuable.
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