Vernal galaxy
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Why not? It’s a lot easier to say than “southern hemisphere of the galaxy.” And when it comes to agreeing upon terminology that easily translates for many alien species, why not a simple anatomical reference, seeing as how all Federation member species have a front and a back? It’s immediately understandable.
To take it a step, further, "ventral galaxy" could even theoretically be a translation of an alien name, named by a species that relates by analogy to real body parts, instead of to imaginary creatures the way we have. Which would be sillier?
Because it's pulled out of a hat. It's an unnecessary and labored explanation for something that doesn't need a handwave, because "vernal" is, as I've explained fifty times by now, a word that has an actual meaning as an astronomical reference.
Again, though, that's making two fundamental mistakes at the same time -- one, assuming there is an up or down in space, and two, taking literally the Eurocentric mapmaking convention that places south toward the bottom of a map. Both north and south are, of course, perpendicular to the up-down axis, the same as east and west. North-south is the Y axis, not the Z axis.
And it's a specious comparison, because you could just as easily say "southern galaxy."
But a galaxy does not have a front and back, any more than it has a top and bottom. It's an incredibly terrible analogy. A galaxy is a cloud. A cloud does not have anatomy.
You will cite each and every one of those fifty times. Individually. Here. And in chronological order.
We grant you thirty Earth time periods known as minutes to make preparations.
Go.
The MW has had a top and bottom since at least 1958, when the IAU defined the galactic plane and created a coordinate system with a northern half with positive latitude values and a southern half with negative latitude values.
I just looked at the memo in Memory Alpha and I couldn't make out Comsol's title in it:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Robert_L._Comsol?file=General_Order_7.jpg
Have you been able to read Comsol's title?
Post number 18 on page of this thread has a clearer view of the title of Comsol. In it I can read Commander ______, but I can't make out the next word.
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/vernal-galaxy.308871/
Here is a link to yet another image where the title seems to be "Commandg Officer". But it doesn't specify whiat Comsol commands, and the second word is still rather blurry.
https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x11hd/themenageriepart1hd178.jpg
And I don't see wy Comsol could not wear two hats and be both the commander of all Starfleet and the command of Sol Sector.
I prefer to seek explanations where both of the apparently conflicting statements are true, or at the least are true "from a certain point of view".
As for my alternate universes idea, as I wrote, it seems to me utterly impossible for "The Final Problem" and "The Empty House" to happen in the same universe as The Valley of Fear. So if some Holmes stories must be in alternate universes to others, it doesn't complicate matters much to make stories were Watson was woundd in the shoulder in alternate universes to stories where Watson was wounded in the leg.
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And the usage of that definition that immediately came to mind:Anatomy
2. a study of the structure or internal workings of something.
Anatomy of a Murder
@MAGolding The full text of the signature area is:
STARFLEET COMMAND
BY ORDER OF
Robert L. Comsol (signature)
Robert L. Comsol (printed)
COMMANDING OFFICER
STARFLEET COMMAND
BY ORDER OF
Robert L. Comsol (signature)
Robert L. Comsol (printed)
COMMANDING OFFICER
Comsol is quite obviously Robert L.’s earned title, kinda like the Klingon Dahar Master, separate from Starfleet role and dating back to the Romulan war. In order to become a Comsol you have to take additional classes with a lot of strategema and 3D chess. Then you participate in wargames with the fleet of Sector 001, which is made up of all the ships that just happen to be there at the time.
Anatomy refers to parts and components of a wider whole. So yes, a cloud can have an anatomy of its own even as a gaseous body.
One has to love serendipity (and the ESA too):
https://sci.esa.int/web/gaia/-/58206-anatomy-of-the-milky-way
https://sci.esa.int/web/gaia/-/58206-anatomy-of-the-milky-way
Commence the waiting for the mea culpa.
Based on past performance we’ll be waiting for a while.
Standard operating procedure will be a shifting of the goalposts.
Roger RodgerIs this an equivalent to Maj. Major Major Major.
Falconer, I had no idea Trader Captains had that art in it. I love it. FASA’s Triangle was a great idea. I think “coreward” and “spinward” were coined there. Now some called the pineal gland the third eye…part of paranormal psychology…so that goes with the psychic Talosians…a part of the galaxy that…like the Neg-E barrier, enhances psi-op species.
If I were to try to codify the old phrase “the stars are right” it might have to do with focal lines…if I had to harden astrology woo somehow.
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The terms probably predate gaming but I know that Traveler was using them in 1977, three years before FASA was founded.
"Spinward" and "antispinward" are terms from Ringworld (1970) by Larry Niven.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spinward:
1970 October, Larry Niven, Ringworld, New York, N.Y.: Ballantine Books, →ISBN:
It was half-daylight; the shadow of the terminator was coming in from spinward like a black curtain.
It was half-daylight; the shadow of the terminator was coming in from spinward like a black curtain.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/antispinward:
1970 October, Larry Niven, Ringworld, New York, N.Y.: Ballantine Books, →ISBN, page 152:
To antispinward was the largest mountain men had ever seen.
To antispinward was the largest mountain men had ever seen.
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