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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

Curious why they’re going to the Alpha, when the Beta is closer to Delta and, y’know, contains the core of the Federation. Sometimes I think people forget that.
Jankom Pog: A 16-year-old Tellarite
This kid is a Tellarite and tells the other kids that the USS ProtoStar is a UFP / StarFleet vessel.

And when they make their escape, they want to go to the UFP to go home (For the Tellarite kid anyways).
 
But... the core of the UFP is mostly in the Beta quadrant. Sure, it’s close to the border line between A and B, but it’s still accurately the Beta Quadrant. I dunno. Maybe it’s being a little pedantic on my part, but it just seems narratively wrong to me. I guess the show runners think “Alpha” simply sounds better than “Beta”, irrespective of established canonical accuracy. Oh well... :sigh: :shrug:
 
But... the core of the UFP is mostly in the Beta quadrant. Sure, it’s close to the border line between A and B, but it’s still accurately the Beta Quadrant. I dunno. Maybe it’s being a little pedantic on my part, but it just seems narratively wrong to me. I guess the show runners think “Alpha” simply sounds better than “Beta”, irrespective of established canonical accuracy. Oh well... :sigh: :shrug:
DS9 and Voyager constantly referred to the Alpha Quadrant when referring to the federation and it’s neighbours.
 
I’m just saying, they’re going with what was established in the previous series.

The federation being mostly in the beta quadrant wasn’t something established on screen until some blurry maps in Discovery/Picard.

Yes, things like the tech manual other non-canon materials showed it.
 
I wonder if holographic Janeway was created by Reg Barclay (who may become a guest role), and by the end of Season 1, and they are in the Alpha Quadrant - might they choose to attend the Academy and we will get non-holographic Admiral Janeway from that point on?
 
Curious why they’re going to the Alpha, when the Beta is closer to Delta and, y’know, contains the core of the Federation. Sometimes I think people forget that.

One more reason I support the models that move the alpha/beta border over to the "right": running through the Klingon and Romulan empires. It fits much better with the dialogue in DS9 and Voyager, and Earth doesn't have to be the center of every bloody thing. We're already sector 001, can't we be satisfied with that?
 
I like it, but if they're going to have a familiar piece of music at the end shouldn't it be the Voyager theme?
 
Prodigy is mostly about getting kids into the Trek brand, so they want those familiar notes that act as an umbrella for the whole franchise rather than a specific show.
Yeah, but Discovery references the TOS theme, Picard references the TNG theme, so it only makes sense for a series that has close ties to Voyager to reference its theme.
 
Yeah, but Discovery references the TOS theme, Picard references the TNG theme, so it only makes sense for a series that has close ties to Voyager to reference its theme.

Don't get me wrong, i know where you're coming from, but those shows are aimed at people familiar with Trek and the pre-existing shows.

What Prodigy is trying to do is get young kids interested in Trek for the very first time. Not the few kids who will naturally gravitate towards Trek (like presumably we did in our time) but a larger kiddy audience, who have probably never seen Trek in any form and won't recognise the nuances that you and I do. So for these fresh cadets they're going to want the most iconic notes and if they get hooked on Trek, then they get into the nuance of the various shows.
 
Sure, from human history: we're one of hundreds of members of the Federation.
Anyways, the old system of mapping things out of a Radial Disc Volume is complicated for the average UFP citizen and hard to use if you want to create a simple to use Space Map that the average person can use like modern day Google Maps.

In my Head Canon, the UFP have moved to using Cubes that are nested within each other for 3D Map purposes.

It makes things easy to use/understand for almost everybody and scales Up/Down easily.

Kinda like the Metric System, but using simple 3D Cartesian Coordinate Systems within layers of Cubes.

This way, it's backwards compatible with the common Quadrant designation already in place.
 
I wonder if holographic Janeway was created by Reg Barclay (who may become a guest role), and by the end of Season 1, and they are in the Alpha Quadrant - might they choose to attend the Academy and we will get non-holographic Admiral Janeway from that point on?
I've been hoping that Reg would make an appearance at some point. Now we have confirmation that previously seen characters will appear and we already know Chakotay is one of them. Hopefully Reg is, too.
 
But... the core of the UFP is mostly in the Beta quadrant. Sure, it’s close to the border line between A and B, but it’s still accurately the Beta Quadrant. I dunno. Maybe it’s being a little pedantic on my part, but it just seems narratively wrong to me. I guess the show runners think “Alpha” simply sounds better than “Beta”, irrespective of established canonical accuracy. Oh well... :sigh: :shrug:

The Beta Quadrant has hardly ever been mentioned in canonical dialogue, though, and the overwhelming majority of viewers will only know what they've heard in dialogue and not what can be glimpsed on a freeze-framed map graphic in the background. Canon does not mean technical details and worldbuilding. A canon is a body of stories, so what matters is the dramatic needs of the narrative. The technical details exist to serve that narrative, not the other way around.

The quadrant labels were introduced in TNG: "The Price" and then picked up in DS9. In both cases, the featured wormhole had one end in the Alpha Quadrant and the other in Gamma or Delta, so it became a regular convention in DS9 to refer to the Alpha Quadrant when discussing matters on the near side of the wormhole. Eventually DS9 started bringing in Klingons and Romulans, powers that are technically in the Beta Quadrant, but it would've confused the audience to refer to them as being in a separate quadrant, because the audience had been conditioned to think of other quadrants as very far away from the Federation rather than right next door. So it was clearer and more narratively useful to refer to them all as "Alpha Quadrant" powers so that the audience would understand they were all neighbors. In narrative fiction, any detail that doesn't serve the story doesn't need to be mentioned, and any detail that would add needless confusion absolutely should not be mentioned.

And really, it's not like we don't use similarly inaccurate geographic shorthands in real life. For instance, we call Europe part of "the West" even though nearly all of it is in the Eastern Hemisphere. It's just simpler to abbreviate. "Alpha Quadrant" is easier for people in the Federation to say than "Alpha and Beta Quadrants."
 
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