Not seeing any evidence of that here.
The References are just the background, they're not the important part of the show.
Man you're completely missing the point of the show. It's not the references, those are just for fun.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x03 - "We'll Always Have Tom Paris"
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The References are just the background, they're not the important part of the show.
Oh come on, the references are at least half the show. Hence why half the discussion in this topic is about a reference or easter egg rather than something new and original Lower Decks brought to the table.
The Man Trap features extras on the Enterprise with different colors of the pilot uniforms.
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Thank you for catching that. @fireproof78 ! Those officers would clearly be Starfleet personnel in 2266 and not part of some science bureau or agency or the Merchant Marine.
Thank you for catching that. @fireproof78 ! Those officers would clearly be Starfleet personnel in 2266 and not part of some science bureau or agency or the Merchant Marine.
Great catch then 
The behind the scenes reasons don't excuse it. It was an awful decision and look friggin' horrible in "Generations."
Well, thank god we have the "novels" to offer a dumbass explanation. Oy....
Another dumb, pointless, speculative explanation.
This is Star Trek. it isn't supposed to be fun.
Except, inadvertently.
We don't talk about those...
Possibly. She presumably has been serving since before then. Last season, we saw a flashback of her in uniform onboard the Quito in which one of her Starfleet friends recounted the plot of TNG's Descent as if it had just happened. Wiki suggests TNG S7 was 2370, and DS9 S4 is 2372.
She talked about serving on DS9, and her holo program has her escaping a Cardassian prison, so it fits.
Someone already pointed this out, but Boimler is probably just wrong. Considering these people have served together for at least a year, there's a lot that they don't know about each other.
I would imagine Mariner is in her early 30s, but it is possible that she had an early start and is younger than that.
Boimler is presumably in his early 20s, so Jack is as much older than him as Tawny is older than Mariner is likely to be. Also, most actors often play younger than their age. Also, I tend to doubt that there is a report of how the actors were cast to be played in live action potentially.
Even putting aside Quark using Rom's connections to catapult him to a franchise, "inexplicable" is far too strong.
I am not sure it's fair to say that Quark was not portrayed as successful with his DS9 bar. He wanted more than he had, and some richer Ferengi looked down on him, true. But he still seemingly had a fair amount of latinum. Even accepting for discussion's sake that Quark had not been successful during the run of DS9, there is no reason that he could not improve his fortunes dramatically years down the line. Many, if not most, successful real world businesses go through a soft/lean period first. Also, it was clear that in at least some part, the bar was a front for him doing far more profitable shady stuff and he was being kept in check from the shadiest of stuff by Odo. It's very plausible IMO that once Odo wasn't around to keep an eye on him, Quark's business (illegal and otherwise) would be able to blow up. It's also plausible that setting up franchises in other places that would allow him to do shady stuff with no Odo in sight might work well for him.
A note about the GEN uniforms: brand-new uniforms were made for GEN (and can be seen on the TNG Playmates action figures made for GEN), but the producers felt they were ‘too much change’ for a movie already containing lots of changes, and they ended up not being used. I believe these uniforms would have been the new VOY uniforms, which would have debuted in GEN and carried over to VOY. But because they ultimately didn’t get used, and they still wanted different uniforms for the VOY crew, the decision was made to segue to the DS9 jumpsuits in GEN instead, and that’s why they had the jumpsuits on VOY.
Of course, none of this makes any logical sense. If they thought the new uniforms were ‘too much change,’ then they should have had the crew keep the TNG uniforms throughout the entire film rather than segueing to the DS9 uniforms halfway through the movie for no apparent reason. Not to mention that all those DS9 uniforms actually belonged to the DS9 cast, and they didn’t fit the TNG actors correctly.
Getting back to LDS: I personally have no problem with different crews wearing different uniforms, or older uniforms coexisting with new ones. However, I would like to know the logic behind why certain ships have certain uniforms. LDS hasn’t made that very clear.
Of course, none of this makes any logical sense. If they thought the new uniforms were ‘too much change,’ then they should have had the crew keep the TNG uniforms throughout the entire film rather than segueing to the DS9 uniforms halfway through the movie for no apparent reason. Not to mention that all those DS9 uniforms actually belonged to the DS9 cast, and they didn’t fit the TNG actors correctly.
Getting back to LDS: I personally have no problem with different crews wearing different uniforms, or older uniforms coexisting with new ones. However, I would like to know the logic behind why certain ships have certain uniforms. LDS hasn’t made that very clear.
I have no issue with the Lower Decks crew having a different uniform. I would imagine that Second Contact/support style ships operate under a different command arm within the Fleet, allowing for a different uniform of the day for the commanding officer to dictate as uniform of the day.
The problem with that theory is that the Vancouver crew also had the LDS uniforms, and they were not a second contact crew. Why didn’t they have the FC uniforms like the Titan crew?
Well, I just wonder at out the fleet is organized. If it is under Admiral Mariner then perhaps his command extends beyond just that operation of Second Contact.
The very beginning of this clip is possibly the only existing footage of the unused Generations uniforms (which, by the way, were very similar to the LDS ones, probably by intention!).
Look at geordi, the rest of the clip already has the combination of TNG and DS9 uniforms they eventually went with.
Allegedly, as far as I remember, it was not an issue of familiarity, but that the discarded uniforms ended up not looking very well on screen. Why they did the mix is beyond me.
Personally, I’ve long had a fanno theory that Starfleet has several active designs and is up to the commanding officer to decide which one will be used on the ship, some being considered more formal or whatever.
Look at geordi, the rest of the clip already has the combination of TNG and DS9 uniforms they eventually went with.
Allegedly, as far as I remember, it was not an issue of familiarity, but that the discarded uniforms ended up not looking very well on screen. Why they did the mix is beyond me.
Personally, I’ve long had a fanno theory that Starfleet has several active designs and is up to the commanding officer to decide which one will be used on the ship, some being considered more formal or whatever.
Budget
Even GEN had a limited budget. We didn't enter the era of truly huge Star Trek movie budgets again until Trek 2009.
Come on. This is hardly a DISCO or Picard thing. It's straight up Star Trek. Kirk, Spock and I don't recall who else have died and come back. Characters have also been "out" only to rejoin the crew later. The LD episodes shine a humorous light on the tropes. Which is part of the point of the show.
