Re-Write the Ending!

[Nyotarules]

The image I'm getting is that in their world, there's no more racism, though there still is some lingering specieism. As I see it, the Terra Prime members feel they're losing ground, with the influx of ever more aliens,and try a last desparate attempt to turn the tide - but not a terribly well thought out attempt.

And that is the set up, humans have solved their issues with each other, not necessarily other beings. Even in the TOS era it was big deal for some of the characters, especially McCoy that Spock was half human but embraced his Vulcan side, why is that?
By the 24th century the Trek universe reeked of Terran privilege in Starfleet, specism became its norm. (I am ignoring the production reasons for this)

Spoiler

By the 32nd century its entrenched

 

[at Quark's]

And that is the set up, humans have solved their issues with each other, not necessarily other beings. Even in the TOS era it was big deal for some of the characters, especially McCoy that Spock was half human but embraced his Vulcan side, why is that?
By the 24th century the Trek universe reeked of Terran privilege in Starfleet, specism became its norm. (I am ignoring the production reasons for this)

I'll confess that I had had this nagging feeling from times to times myself, certainly when viewing a series such as TNG, so in that sense I can understand one can see it that way.

However, I also believe that such an interpretation goes against some of the core tenets and realities the producers of the classic series (everything up to ENT) wanted to establish for their UFP. For example, I think that the banter between Spock and McCoy was never intended as an indication of serious speciesism, but as the kind of insulting comments you can make to a good friend without seriously jeopardizing your relationship with him, even if today we would see such comments in a different light.

Of course, the producers of these earlier series can be held partly, but not entirely accountable for how we would interpret some of their material from a 2020 perspective.

 

[Danny99]

ENT Terra Prime episode

Baby Elizabeth survives, Phlox suggests reporting her death to the public for her own protection. Soval offers to adopt her within his own clan. T'Pol and Tucker tearfully agree as they head for the memorial service

This would have given Soval a great end to his character arc.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Sons of Mogh:

Kurn’s memory is not erased. Instead he finds a non-Klingon cause he can fight honorably for and he’s reported dead.

My ending is that Gowron offers Kurn back his position (at a reduced prestige and wealth) in exchange for publicly denouncing Worf and maybe making a half-assed attack on him.

Kurn accepts and Worf lets it happen, letting the House of Mogh pass from him.

 

[Oddish]

My ending is that Gowron offers Kurn back his position (at a reduced prestige and wealth) in exchange for publicly denouncing Worf and maybe making a half-assed attack on him.

Kurn accepts and Worf lets it happen, letting the House of Mogh pass from him.

That actually makes sense, given that the human/Klingon conflict ended well before the series did. Worf could even have restored Kurn to his full position during his brief period as chancellor of the Empire, or as a result of it.

 

[STEPhon IT]

Q: "If you mate with me, Kathy, I'll bring you and your whole crew home."

Janeway: "Great. I mean, it's incredibly sexist and rapey. But whatever works."

YUP, very much so because the Q is very much like humans and have human traits so it had to be sexist and rapey. What on Earth would a woman think of an alien man??? Men are men.

 

[Tim Thomason]

YUP, very much so because the Q is very much like humans and have human traits so it had to be sexist and rapey. What on Earth would a woman think of an alien man??? Men are men.

It's sexist because he seems to be equating Janeway to a broodmare. It's rapey because he is forcing an impregnation onto Janeway in exchange for the voyage home (she doesn't yet know the full extent of the impregnation or the style of conception). Neither of which have anything to do with Q's present appearance or gender.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Duet:
Final scene:
The assassinator has no chance to kill Marritza, as our competent, ever-alert, shape-shifting security chief swiftly reacts and disarms him.
Alternately, accomplices distract Odo while the attacker kills Marritza.

(That scene really bothered me in what is one of my favorite episodes.)

 

[Tim Thomason]

Duet:
Final scene:
The assassinator has no chance to kill Marritza, as our competent, ever-alert, shape-shifting security chief swiftly reacts and disarms him.
Alternately, accomplices distract Odo while the attacker kills Marritza.

(That scene really bothered me in what is one of my favorite episodes.)

Alternatively, Bashir shrugs and easily fixes the stab wound that Marritza received.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

HA, didn't even think of that.

 

[Oddish]

Alternatively, Bashir shrugs and easily fixes the stab wound that Marritza received.

Totally. What kind of physician is Bashir that he can't even fix a chest wound? Doctors were fixing punctured hearts back in the 20th century.

 

[jackoverfull]

What a coincidence: I just rewatched duet a few minutes ago and was about to post a similar alternate ending.

Also: marritza becomes a cardassian politician and recurring character, a sort of anti-Dukat…yet we’re never really sure he actually is who he says he is

 

[Oddish]

What a coincidence: I just rewatched duet a few minutes ago and was about to post a similar alternate ending.

Also: marritza becomes a cardassian politician and recurring character, a sort of anti-Dukat…yet we’re never really sure he actually is who he says he is

He could have become the leader of Cardassia at the end of the Dominion war, with Garak as his trusty "behind the scenes" guy.

 

[Farscape One]

"Reunion"...

Crusher is able revive K'Ehleyr, but Worf doesn't know this as he took off his combadge and is in the middle of killing Duras.

The rest happens the same: Picard still reprimands Worf, but with Worf having to live the fact that his fellow officers think he committed a murder since she is still alive. K'Ehleyr becomes a recurring character for a few episodes so she can fully heal.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Also: marritza becomes a cardassian politician and recurring character, a sort of anti-Dukat…yet we’re never really sure he actually is who he says he is

Killing Marritza did save the character from difficult questions about his presence on Bajor. He would certainly have been a hero for championing truth commissions or other such efforts, if on Cardassia or as an exile. But as the subsequent stories about Ghemor and Prin, no Cardassian was completely innocent. Marritza would have been a legitimate target for any resistance group based on his service for the occupation.

 

[jackoverfull]

Well, one of the points of the episode was if the lower ranks, the clerks that just heard the screams and never actively engaged in the atrocities and weren’t really in the position to prevent them, could be considered responsible.

This, of course, is a long standing real world issue and the WW2 parallel was pretty much obvious.

 

[Mark 2000]

I'm going to break the rules here. End of TMP. Kirk's entire storyline is that he wants to escape the shackles of Starfleet politics and get back to the stars with his space-husband, Spock. He wrongs Decker in pursuit of this. Spock's storyline is that he wants to find this perfectly logical Vejur thing and also get back to his space-husband, Kirk. The whole film makes so much more sense if joining with Vejur is both a reward for Kirk's need for adventure and a punishment for taking the Enterprise from Decker. Spock comes along too because he understands how to merge emotion with logic. Decker becomes the new captain. Ilia is freed from Vejur's control and becomes a fully realized copy of the lieutenant (as she does in the book). Did this as a comic last year if you want to see it in action. http://trekcomic.com/comic/2020-04-14/

 

[Oddish]

Rule bending aside, who was the black guy in the first panel?

 

[STEPhon IT]

Could be Q since it's possible he's rapey?

 

[Mark 2000]

Rule bending aside, who was the black guy in the first panel?

Glynn Turman as Decker. Who would want to draw Stephen Collins?