Spoilers The Ships of Lower Decks

[F. King Daniel]

I should also point out that we're taking all this very seriously, when in Peter David's New Frontier comics he put a model of the short-lived Babylon 5 spin off Crusade's Excalibur in the lineage of his USS Excalibur. And Lower Decks takes itself even less seriously than New Frontier ever did!

 

[Timo]

The somber Picard proudly puts works of fiction on a pedestal in his ready room, too...

In for a cent, in for a kilogram: Jeffries' cutaway artwork could be taken wholesale, so that the spacecraft would lack a "bridge" and would have a "control room" instead, say. A reflection of the craft's special role? Or of her historical context, preceding the use of classic starship terminology?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Tuskin38]

They changed the direction of the plasma conduits in Engineering with season 2. Makes more sense now.

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1431644813150019599

 

[Michael]

A question for the more knowledgable people here: Did we already know there was a shuttlebay located in that pod between the nacelles? They had hinted at one or even two shuttlebays in the saucer (the openings of which can bee seen on the back of it on both sides). The MSD we saw in season one didn't feature any shuttle icons at that location at the very least.

 

[Tuskin38]

The door was there in Season 1.

 

[Argosy]

I don't think it was particularly explicit before now, but after this latest episode, looking back at 'Crisis Point' and their melodramatic return to the ship, the final shot of the shuttle entering the bay shows structural details which tie in with pod between the nacelles. So they obviously had an idea of what went where, but the Tom Paris episode has made it a lot clearer.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

yet the MSD still shows shuttlecraft in the saucer, unless they've updated it.

 

[Argosy]

Which is totally valid The revisions to the Cerritos in S2 show blue perimeter lighting on either side of the saucer which I believe highlights the saucer shuttlebays. The curved bay entrance, walled in by an angled hull we see in 'Crisis Point' tie in with the pod features, so the Cerritos likely has at least 3 shuttlebays.

 

[Michael]

^ Or two, depending on whether the shuttlebay in the saucer is actually one big bay with two openings.

 

[Argosy]

^ Absolutely. Given the darker hull material and the shape it forms over the the saucer, you could imagine them feeding into a central point to one larger bay.

 

[thribs]

I did think Loknar when I saw the close-ups, only to learn there was actually a USS Titan Loknar from the game.

 

[KennyB]

Size Comparison from new Starship Encyclopedia........I don't lik et, but that's what they say.........

 

[Argosy]

Ah, is that one of the Eaglemoss books? I might have to pick that up. Hehe, the Cerritos nacelle is almost as long as the E.

Not only is the Cerritos a handsome lady, she's an imposing one ^__^ You could fit a lot of shuttlebays in that hull!

 

[thribs]

That's wrong. McMahan has stated it's around 500 meters. It would never be bigger than the Enterprise.
I mean the joke is that the ship is smaller that they need to sleep in the corridor.

 

[F. King Daniel]

A question for the more knowledgable people here: Did we already know there was a shuttlebay located in that pod between the nacelles? They had hinted at one or even two shuttlebays in the saucer (the openings of which can bee seen on the back of it on both sides). The MSD we saw in season one didn't feature any shuttle icons at that location at the very least.

I don't think it was particularly explicit before now, but after this latest episode, looking back at 'Crisis Point' and their melodramatic return to the ship, the final shot of the shuttle entering the bay shows structural details which tie in with pod between the nacelles. So they obviously had an idea of what went where, but the Tom Paris episode has made it a lot clearer.

The MSD doesn't match what we know of the Cerritos anymore. Engineering is now in the pod, fitting that mammoth warp core and engine room along with the deflector and main shuttlebay. There are explictly three decks in the saucer rim and not the two seen on the MSD.

Even the part of the ship where the Lower Deckers bunk (shown explictly from the outside in S02E01) doesn't look like it was meant to represent that on the MSD.

It's a bit like Voyager's two warp cores and two computer cores being at odds with what the show itself depicted, but moreso.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Size Comparison from new Starship Encyclopedia........I don't lik et, but that's what they say.........

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A second-contact, lower tier support ship dwarfing the frontline flagship seems a little odd to me. What would the crew compliment be, especially if they're squished into the corridors compared to the Enterprise-D's crew quarters?

 

[KennyB]

Ah, is that one of the Eaglemoss books? I might have to pick that up. Hehe, the Cerritos nacelle is almost as long as the E.

Not only is the Cerritos a handsome lady, she's an imposing one ^__^ You could fit a lot of shuttlebays in that hull!

https://treknews.net/2021/08/24/rev...HeTiH0jH0ITt8Pgorw1WT4zkcJXtvJJhbqSOk2REp8UoY

 

[Argosy]

I wonder how they went about getting that scale. The Cerritos has 3 decks of windows on the rim (as King Daniel mentioned) and quite a thickness of hull above and below that before it starts sloping back, so maybe they used the rim as a guide?

But it does feel oversized for a ship of this nature. You could fit an Academies worth of ensigns on a ship that size I guess a cartoon ship is going to throw up even more headaches than usual!

 

[Kzinti]

Size Comparison from new Starship Encyclopedia........I don't lik et, but that's what they say.........

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what the hell.... it's way too big

 

[DaveyNY]

Size Comparison from new Starship Encyclopedia........I don't lik et, but that's what they say.........

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That can't be right .... the damn nacelle alone is almost as big as the ENTERPRISE-E!