Well, we will find out soon. Only a few more weeks until Europeans get to see it. Lucky Europeans.
Dune 2018 (19,20,21...)
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Well, we will find out soon. Only a few more weeks until Europeans get to see it. Lucky Europeans.
Worth the wait.
Fingers crossed.
I don't see where it would be that awkward, plent of TV and movie series have had a character talked about before they actually showed up. Titans spent it's whole first season talking about Bruce Wayne/Batman before he showed up in the second.
I don't see where it would be that hard to drop in just one or two quick references to what Feyed is doing offscreen.
IGN has posted their next Road to Dune article, this one focused on the Fremen, Chani, Stilgar, and Kynes. Once again we get videos with some new footage of the characters, with Stilgar's and Kynes' being almost all new.
Phew, dodged a bullet there. I like Zendaya as an actress but Dune is Paul's story with Chani playing an important part. I wondered why Villeneuve would choose to alter the main story in such a significant way since he's a die hard fan of the material and i'm glad it was cleared up.
I'm checking local theaters nearly on a daily bases to see when it will appear in their program or at least as an announcement. Hope they keep the 16.9. release date and it'll probably be the first movie i see in the theatre since the pandemic shut everything down. For some reason all of the supposed major releases coming out right now are leaving me kinda cold, even the new Marvel movies, but Dune is special to me and i'm really excited. Heck, if i can't find anybody to go with me i will go alone which i haven't done in decades.
Small (very small) videos of the Baron, Rabban and Piter de Vries but enough to give me chills 
https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-explained-villains-harkonnen-dave-bautista-stellan-skarsgard
https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-explained-villains-harkonnen-dave-bautista-stellan-skarsgard
Get me a plane ticket, I'll go see it with you. Coincidentally I already have that weekend off work
Very small, but what is interesting is there is almost a religious style aspect of House Harkonnen in the way the army is shown. Possibly in contrast to Paul's own path.Small (very small) videos of the Baron, Rabban and Piter de Vries but enough to give me chills
https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-explained-villains-harkonnen-dave-bautista-stellan-skarsgard
Yeah, they're pretty creepy. Already liking this take on Duke Harkonnen a lot better than Lynch's.Small (very small) videos of the Baron, Rabban and Piter de Vries but enough to give me chills
https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-explained-villains-harkonnen-dave-bautista-stellan-skarsgard
Yeah, when it came to the Harkonnens Herbert wasn't exactly subtle. The miniseries probably did the best job of making them more human
Though most of the at could be in the second part if it gets made. Read a piece yesterday that she was only on set for 4 days though she really enjoyed it.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertain...t-to-leave/ar-AANMrQb?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531
Though wasn't there a big subtext in the book about whether a person was "human" or not and iirc Paul was rebuked for calling some-one human when they hadn't been tested.
Each planet in the Dune universe appears to be a monoculture, which I guess is possible in a federated, feudal society. I have difficulty believing that present-day humans could end up like that but perhaps it's a result of the Butlerian Jihad and the specialisation in developing specific human abilities to their maximum extent in different directions. The Harkonnen appear to be the result of specialisation in some of the most autocratic and dehumanising traits of mankind, perhaps in the quest for efficiency and maximum profit. I don't think David Lynch got their depiction correct nor do I think the TV miniseries did but I struggle to imagine how they best should be represented. The irony is that eventually the "good guys" turn out to be worse than the "bad guys" but I don't know if Villeneuve will examine this consequence in his treatment as it really only developed after the first novel.
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They're really stepping up the marketing game now - these past few days i see new miniclips every day on Youtube. Good thing i'm bonkers excited about the movie so i don't mind but non hardcore fans might get annoyed
Your cookies will be affecting that. Those clips and ads will be targeted at you. A reg person won't be so inundated.
Since the movie may already have been delayed until December in some markets now, you may be seeing the ads for awhile.
It's over 20,000 years in the future. That's enough time for people to revert to the stone age and back several times over, and there's any number of ways that could happen in the more isolated pre-space-fold days, from mini local apocalypses (asteroid strikes, solar flares, sudden climate change etc. etc.), to socio-economic collapse, internal political strife, to simple stagnation on the milder paradise worlds.
But mostly the relatively primitive state of most Imperial subjects is just a simple result of the distribution of wealth and power; the noble families have *all* the wealth and power while their peasant subjects have basically none. For the most part they're deliberately kept at that level to maintain the feudal structure, allowed exactly as much technology and education to perform their necessary labours to enrich the ruling house and pay the Imperial tithe, and no more.
It's also simply incorrect to claim that all the planets are mono-cultures simply because we never really *see* enough of a sample size of Imperial worlds outside of the ruling class. All we see of the "people" of Geidi Prime is soldiers and slaves. I don't think we even meet a single native inhabitant of Caladan and accounts of them are just third-hand anecdotes about fishing. For all we know the arctic Caladan fishing people have a totally different culture to the equatorials, and the highland herders have little in common with the lowland rice paddy farmers.
And in point of fact on Arrakis we do indeed see a distinct cultural separation between the Fremen and the city & town dwellers, even if there was plenty of osmosis (stillsuit pun not intended.)
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Messiah does have a different pacing than the other novels. To me, the story almost felt like a Coda to the original novel. It was short though and does set up important elements for the story going forward--so it does make it difficult to jump straight to Children.
Interestingly though, Children of Dune is a powerful and engaging read, and God Emperor is my favorite of the series. In my opinion the series functions very well as a quadriology. I hated Heretics and I didn't read Chapterhouse.
Personally I felt like Heretics and Chapterhouse were closer to the more run-of-the-mill sci-fi. Not brilliant, but not terrible either (that award goes to literally everything that came after Frank died.) Their place in the whole saga is sort of akin to a failed spin-off. Not as great as the original, but more substantial than most seem to think, and sadly incomplete.
Oh and if anything is a coda, it's God Emperor. It's so weird and meditative and so very light on plot that it doesn't really compare to anything else. Even the framing device feels like a coda to the whole thing. At least with DM & CoD there's a smoother sense of narrative continuity both between them and in relation to the original book. To put it in musical terms, the first three books form a sort of 'call and response' dynamic. At least for the people that were under the misapprehension that the story of Dune was in any way meant to be heroic or romantic, the next two books emphasise the elements that were intended to deconstruct such notions, but a lot of people missed in the first book.
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