Well, given that how little she cared about them herself...they'd better.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Well, given that how little she cared about them herself...they'd better.
If Gene Rodenberry started Star Trek today, he would be vilified for the miniskirts. The same miniskirts that Nichelle Nichols once described as a form of women's liberation.
For the record, I always thought they were ridiculously short and not suitable as a military outfit.
For the record, I always thought they were ridiculously short and not suitable as a military outfit.
The miniskirts were a liberation because of the prudish leagues that wanted women to be covered from head to toes and professed that the feminine body was evil and should be hidden from sight for that reason. They were a reaction to those reactionaries that blamed women for wanting to be more than homemakers waiting for their husbands at home. Pretty much the situation shown in Voyager's "Real Life" with the doctor's ideal wife...at his beck and call.
None of which would matter if the show was released today.
J.J. came close with the sleeveless TOS-style miniskirt uniforms in Trek 2009 and STID but there were no plunging necklines to show more female skin and the skirts were longer. Still, the spirit was preserved.
Don't let Tasha hear you say that.
Ssssoooo...you're saying that Starfleet is a military...
Cue 2021 I'd say a lot of people would have gone into full reverse and wanted longer skirts... My how times change yet stay the same..
Correct, the era of speak easys, lounge singers and flappers.
My controversial Trek opinions:
- Kirk's gold tunic was green.
- The TOS bridge is offset by 35 degrees
- Starfleet is NOT a military even though it kinda is
- And you can say FUCK in Star Trek all you want! Fuck it!
Mine:
- On-screen color mix trumps whatever it looked like IRL behind the scenes, so Kirk's gold tunic was gold. See also: the starship wasn't just eleven feet long, and the buildings of Starbase 11 weren't paintings.
- The TOS bridge is offset by minus 35 degrees, because it's actually upside down. The turbo does a 180 flip at deck two. (This is also the basis for my twelve page article explaining why the elevator ride to deck two took so long in The Enterprise Incident.)
- Starfleet is a uniformed service with both military and non-military mandates. It's a military, and it's not a military. It's also a floor wax and a dessert topping.
- And you can say FUCK in Star Trek all you want! Fuck it!
Ensign Tilly was hot.
However Captain Killy was a supernova
However Captain Killy was a supernova
And it was Grace Lee Whitney who actively pushed for them in the first place (as she wanted to show off her legs)
Some people want to look good. Some want to live comfortably. IDIC.
Sybok is a more interesting antagonist than any others in the Trek movie franchise except Khan and Chang.
Not my, or your call. It belongs to them. Some men shave their whole body. I can't be bothered, their call.
Both "look good" and "comfortable" are subjective. I know at least one woman that wears a Victorian style corset, as a back brace. My wife is sexy in a bathrobe and horsy slippers.
Of course they are.
My point is that there are enough plausible choices a person may make that it's hard to tell whether they do things by choice or are coerced, but nothing in the choices themselves should automatically lead to an assumption of coercion as there are many rational reasons for arriving at them.
Going to get pilloried for this, but: Pike was a better character than Kirk.
Pike from The Cage, not DSC Pike or Abrams Pike.
Also, the doctor from the Cage was a better character than McCoy. They felt more like people, and less like caricatures.
They also had a more somber disposition, which I personally can relate to more easily, and which is understandable given what they've experienced.
Forget Kirk vs Picard, Kirk can't even rival Pike!
Pike from The Cage, not DSC Pike or Abrams Pike.
Also, the doctor from the Cage was a better character than McCoy. They felt more like people, and less like caricatures.
They also had a more somber disposition, which I personally can relate to more easily, and which is understandable given what they've experienced.
Forget Kirk vs Picard, Kirk can't even rival Pike!
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