DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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I have to admit, I had been assuming they were going to be pretty much ignoring the earlier movies from this point on, but it's pretty cleat that is not the case. It looks like it's more that they aren't going to be forcing every movie to line up with every other movie the way Marvel does. So now we'll be able to get both JK Simmons and Jeffrey Wright both playing Gordon in movies coming out together, rather than MCU, where all of the movies would be forced to use JK Simmons.
That's different. JD isn't talking about recasting a role in a single continuity, but about DC having different film continuities simultaneously -- one with Ben Affleck as Batman and J.K. Simmons as Gordon, one with Robert Pattinson as Batman and Jeffrey Wright as Gordon.
It's not so different from what they respectively do on TV. All the Marvel shows in the past eight years, with the exception of the X-Men-adjacent The Gifted and Legion, have been intended to take place in the MCU, whereas there have been multiple different DC continuities on TV in the same span (the Arrowverse, Gotham, Powerless, Titans, Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing, Krypton, Pennyworth, Stargirl, Watchmen).
Yep.
Warner Bros. and DC started out trying to emulate the MCU by concentrating on building one single shared universe on film, but through various circumstances have now shifted focus slightly.
They're still building on and continuing to expand their originally planned MCU-style Shared Continuity Universe of films (contrary to what @kirk55555 keeps claiming), but are also branching off and establishing other filmic continuities simultaneously.
Yeah, your TV argument falls apart when you can find three examples from Marvel that don't take place in the MCU.
And as for the MCU, IF the rumors are correct, You may see them start integrating other marvel film franchises like the Spider-Man film franchise from Sony before the deal was made. But yeah we'll see. Of the current recently released DC film universe starting with "Man of Steel"; The only film that can be shown to be completely outside of that continuity is 'Joker'. Yes they have something in the works it's still being filmed.
Doing that, if it actually happens, is a Sony decision, not a Marvel Studios decision, and still doesn't have anything to do with what DC is now doing.
"Argument?" Come on, we're not in court. I just said "not so different." That's not trying to prove anything, it's just an idle observation.
This.
After Flashpoint, EVERYTHING will be "canon" (really, everything will be part of meta-continuity, but why quibble?).
Joker (and its sequel), and The Batman may not be a part of that, from what information is available.
Those who don't still make Kleenex happy on boards such as this one, claiming "killer / grimdark Superman" is not a part of "anything," or fantasize that somehow, Wonder Woman and Aquaman were never a part of the movies shepherded by Snyder, when clearly (to anyone who actually watched the films) they are. This group will have the most difficulty dealing with DC movies going forward.
Kobra Kai's Xolo Mariduena is in talks to play the title character in the Blue Beetle movie. Never watched Kobra Kai, but a lot of people seem to like it, so hopefully he'll be a good choice.
I watch Cobra Kai he is really good. He would be solid choice as Jaime Reyes.
Good. As much as I loved Ted, I fell in love with Jaime when I was reading his book and hope to see him done well.
I thought the guy who was cast on Smallville was awful.
This actor is one of the lead younger characters on Cobra Kai. Him being in talks means a Blue Beetle could actually get made now. He is not a name yet but he is an upcoming star,
This actor is one of the lead younger characters on Cobra Kai. Him being in talks means a Blue Beetle could actually get made now. He is not a name yet but he is an upcoming star,
Has it been revealed why Tim Burton didn't bring back Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent in Batman Returns? Did he come to regret his casting or performance? Or did he just want BR to be more its own film than too much a sequel, also having a different mayor (and not bringing back Vicki)?
Given that he didn't bring him back, I don't he would have had Two-Face as a villain in a third film if he did get to make it.
Given that he didn't bring him back, I don't he would have had Two-Face as a villain in a third film if he did get to make it.
I remember reading that Burton simply wanted a bigger separation between the first and second movie and decided against bringing the actor/character back, nothing more than that. The writer of Batman Returns did say there was basically a cameo originally written or conceived of before being written where Dent would be seen flipping a coin near the end, but that was pretty much it."
You are correct. Also reading between the lines I have long suspected Tim Burton had no deep enthusiasm for doing a 3rd Batman movie. Looking at his filmography BR is the only sequel he ever made. He went to every effort to separate Batman Returns from the original. Gotham is almost completely new designs.
It’s hard to imagine him wanting to commit to doing a long series of Batman films. That is many years devoted to the same character. Regardless of whether Warner Bros got skittish after reactions to Batman Returns. Tim Burton was a producer on Batman Forever. Joel Schumacher said he directly asked for his advice on what to do. Burton told him he was free to do what he wanted.
Any speculations of a Tim Burton “Batman III” or Burtonverse are really just fan fiction and no reflection of what he would have done. Even the comic coming from DC.
Robin was cast for both Batman and Batman Returns. He cut those scenes before ever filming the actors. He deliberately avoided using the character twice.
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We'll see.
After all the jokes when he was cast, I have to admit that I was pleasantly surprised by Affleck at Batman. I thought he did a good job, and his chemistry with Irons was very good.
Affleck's portrayal of both Bruce Wayne and Batman in the Snyder cut is really spot on for how I see the character. He's a little bulkier than the 70's version I grew up with and always saw as a martial arts style fighter, but in terms of a contemporary Batman that fits in the MCU it is really as comics accurate as we've ever seen on film. Dialogue that came across as flippant attempts at humor in the original, now reveal a sardonic and wry wit that doesn't undermine the seriousness of the character. He holds his own in fight scenes. His interactions with Gordon are great. And his interactions with the League are exactly how Batman appears to me when I read the comics. A+ for Affleck now that I've seen how he was meant to appear.