For me? Yes.
Trek is at its best when it can be alternatively gripping and funny.
Trek is at its best when it can be alternatively gripping and funny.
Is it just me, or is Star Trek going the wrong way?
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I can get humor anywhere.
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Exactly. I love Sisko. Seriously, and not just because he was damned good looking, or his voice. His very deep, melodious voice. The voice of a Jazz singer.
What? Where was I?
Anyway, Sisko was a fantastic character in so many respects. Lost his wife, raising his son on his own, commander of a station out in the armpit of nowhere and then thrust into the spotlight thanks to a rare stable wormhole. A man who had to balance the love of his friends and family with sending them into danger because it was their duty. A man of great conflict and aspirations. I believe he was one of the most well written Star Trek characters, IMO. You have to have a strong foundational character or the rest of the show will suffer.
In a sense, Kirk, while not nearly as complex, was also a well written character. Both actors did double duty in bringing their characters to life, and did it well. As a result, the rest of the cast was able to work off of that solid foundation, and it paid off. Imagine Kirk going toe to toe with the Klingons one minute, and having tribble bonk him on the head the next, and the character lacking that foundation. It wouldn't have worked. Their complexity, their empathy, made them great characters. We didn't have to be them to resonate with them.
Also, if none of you have ever heard Avery Brooks sing jazz, I implore you to listen to this:
The follow up was.How is $470m and a 94% on RT a missed opportunity?
Yes,I like it that way too. But, it is still enjoyable if unbalanced.
It's also something ENT tried to do from time to time. At the height of the Xindi mission Archer and his crew landed on a planet that looked like America's Old West and engaged in shootouts with descendants of humans abducted from Earth in the late 19th Century. It was mostly escapism to give audiences a break in the arc of hunting for the planet-destroying superweapon and a great throwback to a TOS feel of storytelling.
Lower Decks and, I expect, Strange New Worlds will balance Discovery and Picard. We're not getting 26 episodes a year of anything any more, so we're getting that balance of light and darkness, serious and fun, through different shows. It's different, but we're still getting it.
I've watched the first two seasons of DIscovery twice. A few episodes I've seen three times. There are dozens -- at least -- of TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise episodes I've watched only once. I've seen all of DS9 at least twice, a fair number of episodes three times, and TOS? Plenty of times. Discovery's not perfect but it works for me.
I've watched the first two seasons of DIscovery twice. A few episodes I've seen three times. There are dozens -- at least -- of TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise episodes I've watched only once. I've seen all of DS9 at least twice, a fair number of episodes three times, and TOS? Plenty of times. Discovery's not perfect but it works for me.
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I really liked Into Darkness. For me, it's greatest flaw is wasting Basilica Carborundum. As much as I was fine with it when I saw it, I can see why just saying he was Khan while having no actual connection to Khan in any other way than the name is just a cheap way to pull in some of that TWOK cred, and Into Darkness didn't need it. It was a perfectly fine film on its own without that, IMO.
Beetlesnuff Cheesegrater was wasted in that film.
Escapism varies in its effectiveness.
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Exactly. That man was *born* to play a villain. I mean, he's English. What more do you want?!
A non English villain.
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I'm sorry, I don't know what those are. Is it a type of mince pie?
Actually a breakfast dish.
Sounds painful.
Khan as written in STID tracked with the character in TOS and TWOK remarkably well - if you paid attention to those stories, you understood his behavior in STID.
That's not what we got at all and you know it. The cause for the burn was something straight out of TOS.
You can get drama/sci-fi/space ships/time travel/character studies/aliens/etc. anywhere to.
TrueYou can get drama/sci-fi/space ships/time travel/character studies/aliens/etc. anywhere to.
You can get drama/sci-fi/space ships/time travel/character studies/aliens/etc. anywhere to.
Not in the Golden Girls you couldn't. But oddly you could in Family Matters.
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