Here's the premise Patrick Stewart wants too much money, brent spiner wants too much money. Assume there is no DS9 and there is no Voyager.
How would you keep the show going?
How would you keep the show going?
If tng had an 8th season.
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If Patrick Stewart had left after "Best of Both Worlds," with Riker being promoted and Shelby becoming first officer, I think there is potential that the series could have continued successfully. It was still early on in the run at that point and I think the fans could have adapted. However, by the end of the seventh season, I'm not sure the show could have gone on successfully without Stewart. Not because there was no way to do it creatively, but simply because I'm not sure fans would have accepted it.
Spiner is a different story. I know the studio thought the essential elements of the series -- as evidenced by their focus in the movies -- were Picard and Data. But while Data was no doubt a very popular character, TNG was far more of an ensemble show and I think any of the supporting characters could have left and the show continue on successfully. I don't think Brent Spiner, good as he is, was an "absolute must have" element of the show.
Spiner is a different story. I know the studio thought the essential elements of the series -- as evidenced by their focus in the movies -- were Picard and Data. But while Data was no doubt a very popular character, TNG was far more of an ensemble show and I think any of the supporting characters could have left and the show continue on successfully. I don't think Brent Spiner, good as he is, was an "absolute must have" element of the show.
Well the idea would be something along the lines of instead of DS9/Voyager.
You could easily borrow from DS9 subplots and Voyager.
I think you misread the OP this isn't a question of when they should of ended, but how you'd keep it going.
This is a what if scenario. Whether or not it should of ended is completely off topic to this discussion.
'All Good Things...' is such an awesome final episode I wouldn't risk losing it with possibility of 8th season.
If season 8 would end with AGT then why not.
If season 8 would end with AGT then why not.
'All Good Things...' is such an awesome final episode I wouldn't risk losing it with possible 8th season.
Patrick Stewart as captain for 7 seasons and then 1 without him as captain, not a good idea.
Patrick Stewart as captain for 7 seasons and then 1 without him as captain, not a good idea.
If you don't want to play the game, you don't need to grab the ball.
Okay chief. Have it your way. I would keep the show going into season 8 by producing even more mediocre and boring character stories like we saw in season 7.That better?
With no Picard and Data I would do a few things. Riker becomes Captain of course. You bring in a new character, preferable from a a actor of note and I would say female actor as new first officer. She would also be a Android. The first two episodes would guess star Picard and Data and she would be a Starfleet commander who just discovered her nature. But who invented her would be a mystery because it wasn't Soong and She has format memories that sometimes resurface and She knows She has been around for 100 years at least but why her memories were suppressed is unknown. She would have emotions but would be very eccentric. Barclay would also be made a series regular and get Data's job at ops. Also new uniforms. Also a new alien threat. Aliens that are non corporal and simply possess people.
No, because you're still ignoring the thread's premise. The quality didn't suffer because the show was past its expiration date, the problem was that the writers were out of ideas and needed to be replaced. With fresh blood in the writers' room and some new characters the show could have easily kept going.
With Picard and Data gone I'd ditch Will too, he finally becomes captain but not of the Enterprise, starfleet would not give the flagship to someone who never had a command before. I'd bring back Tom Riker as the new operations officer, that way Frakes can stay.
New characters:
Captain: A human woman in her late 40s/early 50s with a science background
First officer: A bajoran man in his early 30s, born on an earth colony where his parents
Pilot: Ro Laren, in this reality Michelle Forbes decides she wants to be a series regular after all, there's some tension between her and the new first officer because he didn't grow up as a refugee, his family was part of a group who emigrated from Bajor before the occupation.
Troi becomes second officer, by the end of the series she almost felt more like the second officer than data anyway with her doing crew evaluations with Riker, just make it official. This also justifies her having one of the center seats more.
With Will out of the picture Deanna and Tom become a couple and eventually get married making him Thomas Troi (because Betazed was described as a matriarchal society and also because Tom resents being "the other Riker"). Certain parts of the fandom exploding because a man takes his wife's name would also have been really funny which might be the real reason I'd do it.
Seriously, why is this an issue in many English speaking countries?The XO is also gay and brought his husband and two children onto the ship.
Is Rick Berman still running things in this alternate reality? If so, good luck getting him to agree to this. Change it to two 'hot lesbians' or two hot aliens from a non-gendered species that are clearly played by women and he might have considered it.
No, I am. I was 13 when the potential season 8 would have started production but that's not a problem, if Doogie could be a doctor I could have run a tv show.
Mixed feelings about the concept. On the one hand, the Picard and Data show of the first few seasons would be over, allowing other character to be developed. Maybe Beverly could wash that foul Sub Rosa taste out of our collective mouth. Or Geordi could do something better than "Interface".
I'm fine with Riker as captain; the problem would be a first officer. Worf's only a ○○ lieutenant, and Beverly and Troi are specialists. LaForge is a possibility, he's due for commander rank. But then, we'd need a new chief engineer. So I think we would need at least one new character. Don't like the idea of Shelby... she was easy on the eyes, but I found her rather annoying.
I'm fine with Riker as captain; the problem would be a first officer. Worf's only a ○○ lieutenant, and Beverly and Troi are specialists. LaForge is a possibility, he's due for commander rank. But then, we'd need a new chief engineer. So I think we would need at least one new character. Don't like the idea of Shelby... she was easy on the eyes, but I found her rather annoying.
Honestly I'd just bring in two new characters to replace Picard and Data. Probably a new female First Officer. And maybe a permanent helmsman (for that role they could try offering it to Ro's actress again)
This feels dangerously like SG1 territory - which to be fair did work to a greater or lesser extent.
Would imagine that it would end up in a "getting the band back together" style story where Data and Picard are needed to solve solve world ending problem.
Would imagine that it would end up in a "getting the band back together" style story where Data and Picard are needed to solve solve world ending problem.
Very interesting question and something I myself have wondered. Well, firstly, I believe that most of the early DS9 eps were actually originally written for TNG so one has to wonder how they would've worked out as TNG episodes and most likely would have made up a certain portion of TNG's 8th season.
What Would I have done?
More character and story development and I would have had Riker and Troi married at the end of the series finale.
Thats what I would have done.
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