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News Microsoft unveils Windows 11

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/

:D

Silliness aside, the idea of having Android apps run in Windows in their own shiny sandboxed environment is shrewd and opens up a lot more compatibility and interoperability.

My new laptop isn't happy with the 2H20 update (bad drivers, boo!) so hopefully Win11 2H21 or whatever it'll be called will deliver all chipset and other drivers out of the box. (Ubuntu has some issues on it, and Windows SSD drivers tend to be a lot faster for the same machine/hardware... not that seeing a m.2 go from 3000mb/s to 1100 is an observed difference for anything that isn't a VM... But I'm not using the latest version either (v20)...)

WINE and Crossover Office are more or less pointless for Adobe's suites, even the older ones. Great for MS Office, though... forget 3D rendering like Lightwave...
 


Not much nowadays, it seems. Average folks in 1989 were more cognizant of what various parts did and why. Now software apps are dumbed down. The Win10 initialization screen on a new computer is as informal and insulting as anything can get as well. Never mind getting a proper BSOD error code to trace steps in the event of a problem... actual data is replaced with, in a 256 point font and shlock about "we're sorry but"... *

" : ( "

:rolleyes:

Yeah, there finally is a message... oh and by the way, Win10's default setting ensures there's no minidump in the event of a crash. It's great fun trying to enable the setting from the hilariously whittled down Home edition too. Why don't they make it look and act like Microsoft Bob from 1995, which was even more ridiculously hardware-intensive than Windows Vista ever was and Vista was atrocious...


* and who is this "we" they always refer to, anyway? Seems a little odd. It's also only an electronic machine, there isn't a group of tiny people under the covers typing these "we" messages, and those laptop cases are bloody impossible to remove if you want to replace the cheap SSD with something faster and more reliable too... but I digress. Where's the bottle cap opener? I need to get sloshed...
 
M$ can suck it - I'm still running Win7 and will NOT buy a new system with Win11 on it.

They keep trying to force everyone into the same little "box" and I don't fit...

Having had to reinstall W7 on my laptop over the weekend, my only wish is that there had been a SP2, or that some external person had made an EOL Win7 SP of some sort.
 
^^ Very true..
PEBMAC ("problem exists between monitor and chair"), identity error or ID-10T/1D-10T error ("idiot error"), PICNIC ("problem in chair, not in computer"), IBM error ("idiot behind machine error")
PEBKAC an acronym for "problem exists between keyboard and chair"), PEBCAK (an alternative, but similar, acronym for "problem exists between chair and keyboard").:p
 
Never mind the bollocks about running Android apps in Windows using the Subsystem for Linux or whatever - how about running Windows apps in Android (or Linux)? I don't mean in a VM or emulator. Wine looks like it can support a limited number of apps by translating Windows API calls into POSIX ones but I've never used it. Anyone got any experience with using it? I guess patchy support for Direct3D functionality and lack of support for native Windows drivers and virtual device drivers can be serious limitations.
Ive been using wine, when i need to, for years. I have had Linux as my primary home OS since 2004 or so. I had a laptop with XP on it at one point.

If I were heavily into pc gaming I'd swallow some bile and run Windows: my needs are few in that regard. Linux Mint does what I need it to do.

When MS made a port of powershell for linux, I kind of felt that was a quiet acknowledgement the war was about over. As an old Novell engineer and OS2/Warp guy I probably have some extremely deep rooted hatred for windows but I honestly do appreciate some of what MS does. But they've all but completely lost the server wars. Cloud servers are linux, web servers are linux.

NT and its progency were always bloated fuckers and it took Microsoft 10 years to get Active directory to the same point Novell had their directory services in the late 90s. What they had were great salespersons, and a graphic user interface. Novell had fantastic security, an interface only a sysadmin could love, and some very premature dreams of Unix as a desktop OS (once upon a time long ago, so did MS). Novell had based a good chunk of their business on small businesses. You could wave a stick in any business district and probably point to several mom and pop shops, car dealerships, trucking companies etc all with a little whitebox tower running Netware 2 or 3 server quietly chugging away without complaint or reboot (probably with an old 3 1/2 Dr. Dos disk in the drive to boot it to the novell partition) for years.

Novell was not ready for the change. It followed Commodore Amiga into the technological afterlife for better products that somehow got buried by Apple and MS. Oh yeah, Apple. Somehow it survived and stayed alive. There's all kinds of what ifs from that decade of what could have happened differently but we're here. I don't think 11 will die as rapidly as, say, PalmOS in its last days, but I feel like it will slowly wind down.
 
^^ Very true..
PEBMAC ("problem exists between monitor and chair"), identity error or ID-10T/1D-10T error ("idiot error"), PICNIC ("problem in chair, not in computer"), IBM error ("idiot behind machine error")
PEBKAC an acronym for "problem exists between keyboard and chair"), PEBCAK (an alternative, but similar, acronym for "problem exists between chair and keyboard").:p

Used Pebcak and ID-10T before now, but hadn't seen PICNIC :D
 
No matter what microsoft does they can't mitigate the biggest vulnerability - the twerp sitting behind the keyboard.

Not really sure what the purpose of your comment is. That you think other people are 'twerps' doesn't take anything away from the fact that this new operating system is likely to contain an assortment of new vulnerabilities to exploit.
 
Not really sure what the purpose of your comment is. That you think other people are 'twerps' doesn't take anything away from the fact that this new operating system is likely to contain an assortment of new vulnerabilities to exploit.

As does any new operating system whether it's Windows, Apple OS, Linux.

Hell security issues are even continually being found in older systems.

Microsoft are also taking more steps to ensure the security taking advantage of the features in tthe processors and requiring TPM.

nor does it negate the fact that the biggest threats to modern networks are coming from cryptolockers and they are getting in because of the people at the keyboard.

After all why both trying to breach the network from outside when you just e-mail some-one on the inside who doesn't think before opening the e-mail saying that the postal service has a package for delivery when they aren't exepcting one and the message is badly formatted.

There was one earlier this year were ransom-ware was able exploit an issue with ESXi that would allow the encryption of any VMs running on the a the host and all because some-one opened a link they shouldn't have.
 
Even though Linux is remarkably free of many vulnerabilities due to its open source code and a large community using it, even it is not entirely free of such things.

https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-s...ation-information-leak-and-denial-of-service/

Also because Linux is pretty much the kernel and userland, most security vulnerabilities won't get marked against it.

IIS is an integrated part of Windows so if there's a vulnerability it's a windows vulnerability. A security vulnerability in Apache will be marked against the web server, not the underlying OS because the integration isn't there.
 
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