News Microsoft unveils Windows 11
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Doubt I can even try it on my laptop reading about it.
Not sure it can run DX12 (That's one thing to test), nor am I sure it has TPM. Given how I use my taskbar, shoving start in the middle isn't something I'd prefer much either.
Not sure it can run DX12 (That's one thing to test), nor am I sure it has TPM. Given how I use my taskbar, shoving start in the middle isn't something I'd prefer much either.
It's worth noting that there appears to be a "hard floor" and a "soft floor" on W11 hardware compatibility and M$ only seems to be pushing the "soft floor" requirements when it comes to TPM. Probably because they want you to buy a new PC with a new copy of Windows on it.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/
edit; OMG, the bastards changed it from needing TPM 1.2 to 2.0. The Verge published an article today about this and I guess someone at M$ noticed.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/22550376/microsoft-windows-11-tpm-chips-requirement-security
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/
edit; OMG, the bastards changed it from needing TPM 1.2 to 2.0. The Verge published an article today about this and I guess someone at M$ noticed.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/22550376/microsoft-windows-11-tpm-chips-requirement-security
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M$ can suck it - I'm still running Win7 and will NOT buy a new system with Win11 on it.
They keep trying to force everyone into the same little "box" and I don't fit...
They keep trying to force everyone into the same little "box" and I don't fit...
I made a whole lot of money supporting Microsoft products before I retired, and I'm now the holder of all kinds of useless Microsoft Certifications. I've even still got my old NT certification. LOL
But that just means I really know how to hate Microsoft for their horseshit bloatware.
But that just means I really know how to hate Microsoft for their horseshit bloatware.
We read from left to right. Having the start button on the left is logical and intuitive. Sounds like change for change's sake.
Looks like I'll be running Windows 10 for quite a while.
On the specs, my laptop and gaming pc meet the DX, memory and speed requirements, but I'll have to buy a plugin TPM module for the gaming one (or more likely, upgrade the hardware as for newer games, it'll probably need it).
My laptop doesn't have TPM capability (even a slot for it), so I'll be seeing how WINE handles things like Powerdvd. For most, I can use VLC, but Blu tends to be a little more awkward. Still, I've got til 2025 to test
My laptop doesn't have TPM capability (even a slot for it), so I'll be seeing how WINE handles things like Powerdvd. For most, I can use VLC, but Blu tends to be a little more awkward. Still, I've got til 2025 to test
Does this mean that Windows 11 will last for eleven years?
it could be also be dropped.
ms have been pushing TPM 2 as a requirement since Win8.1 and backed down at the last minute.
In fact I think they're going to have to do a lot of revising because there are going to a lot of systems that are cruising with Win10 that could run 11 but are the health checker is saying they aren't compatible.
I have a 4th gen I5 with 16GB as my desktop and the compliance check says nope based on the cpu and same for my 2017 Surface Pro with an I5-7300u
You can move the start button to the left.
I was thinking that the move to the center was to be more Apple OS like, but my primary monitor is now a super wide monitor and having it center may be easier to access without having to move the mouse all the way over.
But I'm moving more to keyboard shortcuts...
Never mind the bollocks about running Android apps in Windows using the Subsystem for Linux or whatever - how about running Windows apps in Android (or Linux)? I don't mean in a VM or emulator. Wine looks like it can support a limited number of apps by translating Windows API calls into POSIX ones but I've never used it. Anyone got any experience with using it? I guess patchy support for Direct3D functionality and lack of support for native Windows drivers and virtual device drivers can be serious limitations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
You can nowadys even run most games using Wine even if they've got no Linux support, seems it has come a long way.
You can nowadys even run most games using Wine even if they've got no Linux support, seems it has come a long way.
Perhaps, but the timing is suspicious. In the Verge article, they have a screen shot comparison of what it was (on the right) and what it is now (on the left.) When I originally composed my post about the soft v. hard, the right side was there and the article was less than an hour old. By the time I had posted and clicked on the link to make sure it was working, the left had replaced the right. The real question is whether W11 will actually run on a machine with TPM 1.2, isn't it?
Looks like the bigger issue is that microsoft are sticking hard to minimum processors that means a lot of people won't be upgrading until they get a new computer.
Nothing below 8th gen core, and AMD 2000 (Ryzen, Threadripper Epyc).
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/...dows-11-cpu-support-tpm-hardware-requirements
And I don't think that windows 11 will be a driving force for PC sales though microsoft would still get the OEMs ponying up their money as they have been for win10.
Not sure if machines with Windows 11 will be ready for Christmas unless the final build is ready for shipping by October as the manufactures usually need about 6 weeks to prepare and test their preloaded builds before loading them.
wine is still pretty much crap unless you're looking to run some very old software.
installed it, looked at it and nuked it 5 minutes later.
Wine alone is a little difficult to set up. On the other hand with Lutris (https://lutris.net/) things can be good. I don't play a lot on Linux because I have old hardwares but I installed World of Warcraft with Lutris and it worked a lot better than it did when I had to set up Wine by myself.
There is also Steam's Proton that works great.I also have a few games on Stadia and it's really fine.
Gaming on Linux is a lot better than what it used to be.
I don't have experience with non gaming software with Wine on Linux. After 16 years on Linux only, I don't really care about what runs on Windows except games.
There is also Steam's Proton that works great.I also have a few games on Stadia and it's really fine.
Gaming on Linux is a lot better than what it used to be.
I don't have experience with non gaming software with Wine on Linux. After 16 years on Linux only, I don't really care about what runs on Windows except games.
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Good suggestions there! Time for me to ditch Windows forever, methinks.
I've ditched Windows for everything except gaming but when Win 8.1 is no longer supported (2023) then indeed it will be Linux all the way for me as well.
I use Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop environment and I've done so since the 13.xxx version which came out in 2012.
I use Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop environment and I've done so since the 13.xxx version which came out in 2012.
