Even worse than I could have imagined.
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There's a reason that "Faith of the Heart" has been a punchline for 20 years.
The music of "Faith of the Heart" isn't... that bad. It's the disconnect of vocals in a Star Trek theme song that's the problem IMO.
On the other, the "In a Mirror, Darkly" theme is pretty good, and the "Archer's Theme" outro would have been at least as good a choice as a "no vocals" version of "Faith of the Heart".
YMMV.
MUCH, MUCH BETTER that "Faith of the Heart"!
Both are fine. I still like "Faith of the Heart."
Yes, and I've rejected those reasons, too.
I think it makes "Faith of the Heart" look good.
Sorry if this comes off as a bit harsh, Dwight...
"Kyrie?" No. I really don't want any Star Trek TV series to have a Christian pop theme song. Ever. Period.
As for Enterprise... first, the song wasn't even written for Star Trek. It was written for a Robin Williams movie. That disqualifies it right off, as far as I'm concerned; a Star Trek series should have its own theme music.
Second, the lyrics have all the depth of a "Live, Laugh. Love" kitchen needlepoint decoration. Seriously, what is "faith of the heart" supposed to mean, as opposed to just faith? It's just songwriting as engineering, throwing in words that get an emotional reaction without worrying about whether they make any sense, because some people will get the warm fuzzies when they hear either faith or heart in a song and will get double fuzzies with both.
Third, the point of not having a traditional Star Trek theme was the same as the point of leaving Star Trek out of the show's title and making it a prequel: to get a new, younger audience interested. During the first few months of Enterprise's run, the US Mainstream Top 40, according to Billboard, was dominated by Blu Cantrell, Alicia Keys, Jennifer Lopez featuring Ja Rule, Mary J Blige, and Nickelback. The Adult Contemporary chart at the time had Faith Hill, Enya, Matchbox Twenty, and Enrique Iglesias, so the Enterprise theme might have appealed to that crowd -- but that was not who Enterprise was supposed to appeal to. The theme was one of a series of bad decisions that sabotaged Enterprise from the start.
"Kyrie?" No. I really don't want any Star Trek TV series to have a Christian pop theme song. Ever. Period.
As for Enterprise... first, the song wasn't even written for Star Trek. It was written for a Robin Williams movie. That disqualifies it right off, as far as I'm concerned; a Star Trek series should have its own theme music.
Second, the lyrics have all the depth of a "Live, Laugh. Love" kitchen needlepoint decoration. Seriously, what is "faith of the heart" supposed to mean, as opposed to just faith? It's just songwriting as engineering, throwing in words that get an emotional reaction without worrying about whether they make any sense, because some people will get the warm fuzzies when they hear either faith or heart in a song and will get double fuzzies with both.
Third, the point of not having a traditional Star Trek theme was the same as the point of leaving Star Trek out of the show's title and making it a prequel: to get a new, younger audience interested. During the first few months of Enterprise's run, the US Mainstream Top 40, according to Billboard, was dominated by Blu Cantrell, Alicia Keys, Jennifer Lopez featuring Ja Rule, Mary J Blige, and Nickelback. The Adult Contemporary chart at the time had Faith Hill, Enya, Matchbox Twenty, and Enrique Iglesias, so the Enterprise theme might have appealed to that crowd -- but that was not who Enterprise was supposed to appeal to. The theme was one of a series of bad decisions that sabotaged Enterprise from the start.
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I just don't buy "Lord, have mercy" as a Star Trek message. Not even for Pike, who faces a grim future but chose to accept that.
When it comes to Kyrie and Faith of the Heart, it would be better to use the instrumental versions.
I’d imagine those in favour of lyrics in a Trek show are fine with the TOS theme being reproduced and rerecorded with the lyrics written for it.
I’d imagine those in favour of lyrics in a Trek show are fine with the TOS theme being reproduced and rerecorded with the lyrics written for it.
I could go for this one:
Diane Warren, the writer of "Faith of the Heart" (for "Patch Adams"), was pretty hot stuff at the time. When I heard the song was to be reused, I ordered the "Patch Adams" soundtrack on CD and played the song to death before "Enterprise" came out (first on sell-thru home video in Australia). Russell Watson was also pretty hot stuff at the time. He seemed to be everywhere! For "Enterprise", the song is actually reworked as "Where My Heart Will Take Me".
I still enjoy Rod Stewart's and Russell Watson's version.
Not long after "Enterprise" started airing Down Under, Season Two of "Australian Idol" (2004) had, as its finale song, "Listen With Your Heart", written by Warren. It was sung by the two final contestants as they fought it out at the Sydney Opera House. It was said at the time to be essentially a sequel to "Faith of the Heart".
Where no human has gone before.
Ian, we're not the age group Enterprise was aiming for. We were already part of the audience, they didn't need to try to draw us in. But getting a songwriter and a singer who appeal to a middle-aged audience was not going to get TPTB the new, young fans they knew the franchise needed. It's like if you wanted to do a country music concert that would appeal to the young country audience and instead of getting Kacey Musgraves and Florida-Georgia Line or whoever, you got Loretta Lynn and Alabama.
(Let the record show that I like both Kacey Musgraves and Loretta Lynn.)
(Let the record show that I like both Kacey Musgraves and Loretta Lynn.)
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Pull Daft Punk out of retirement and have them do the opening theme.
Just throw the Alexander Courage fanfare in there at the end...
Just throw the Alexander Courage fanfare in there at the end...
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