The edge of the Delta Quadrant is tens of thousands of light years past the far Romulan border, decades away. An entire quadrant of the galaxy is hardly local space.
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The edge of the Delta Quadrant is tens of thousands of light years past the far Romulan border, decades away. An entire quadrant of the galaxy is hardly local space.
Yes I realize it's quite far, but it's in the right direction for some far afield travelers. Remember how absurdly far away they were from Talax when Neelix ran into that colony of Talaxians.
How in the hell did they (IE its people) put a 'child' Medusan inside and encounter suit designed I assume for Medusan crew members that interact with corporeal federation crew members?
And here we go ...
If the producers want him to be a Tellarite, he's going to be a Tellarite. What WE have to say about it is irrelevant.
It's. A. Kid's. Show.
I doubt they're going to delve too deeply into offspring (lest the kids start asking Mommy and Daddy uncomfortable questions).
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Since it's a kids show, it could be the delta quadrant used as loosely as it was in an issue of the old IDW Star Trek Ongoing comics, with no explanation or understanding whatsoever.
Jesus Christ with the "kid's show" stuff, guys. It's a Star Trek show first. I think we can trust them to be a bit more intelligent than you are giving them credit for.
Plus, they are doing deep cut references to the Brikar and Medusans. I trust their version of the Delta Quadrant will canonically make sense and wouldn't be surprised if they delve into the Nacene backstory as well, especially with our one, two, or three mysterious backstory characters.
Plus, they are doing deep cut references to the Brikar and Medusans. I trust their version of the Delta Quadrant will canonically make sense and wouldn't be surprised if they delve into the Nacene backstory as well, especially with our one, two, or three mysterious backstory characters.
I'm a little disappointed that Jankom is a Tellarite rather than a Talaxian. I'm one of the few people who liked Neelix and since this is set in the DQ I was hoping for some more exploration of their culture.
The visual style of the stills looks really good. We'll have to wait to see what the animation quality is like, but things are already looking quite cinematic. Also, is this a callback to the ST09 teaser or just a coincidence?
The visual style of the stills looks really good. We'll have to wait to see what the animation quality is like, but things are already looking quite cinematic. Also, is this a callback to the ST09 teaser or just a coincidence?
Just because a really stupid idea was done in the past doesn't mean it should set a precedent.
What a strange question. Presumably they just get in and close it up. If a human child can get in a car, I assume a Medusan child can get inside an encounter suit.
Anyway, it's been like 120 years since "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" We have no idea how commonplace Medusan interactions with other life forms have become in that time. For all we know, there are Medusan tourist families traveling the Federation in encounter suits all the time.
Yes. A lot of the best kids' shows are smarter and better-made than the majority of "adult" programming, e.g. Batman: The Animated Series or the Avatar/Korra franchise.
I'm constantly horrified by the way some people assume that "for kids" automatically equates to "shoddy and inferior." What would the world be like if we applied that thinking to food or medicine or safety equipment? Surely our children deserve the absolute best we're capable of giving them. Surely nothing in this world demands more care, quality, and devotion than the things we create for our children.
Not to mention that, even though Star Trek was originally intended to be the first non-anthology SFTV drama made specifically for adults, the reality is that it owes its long-term success largely to the juvenile audience it gained when it was rerun in daytime syndication throughout the 1970s-80s. It was because it captured a whole generation or two of young viewers (including me) that it became such an enduring success over the decades.
As a children's show, it's probably designed as an entry ramp for new viewers. I doubt it'll be that heavily dependent on past story continuity. Using species is one thing -- species exist continuously and don't have to be bound to a specific storyline or history. I would expect the Delta Quadrant setting to be less about rehashing old Voyager story threads and more about providing the show with a completely blank slate to tell its own stories (since after all Voyager only visited the tiniest fraction of the DQ and most of it is still completely unknown).
The visual style of the stills looks really good. We'll have to wait to see what the animation quality is like, but things are already looking quite cinematic. Also, is this a callback to the ST09 teaser or just a coincidence?
They're both welding. Welders need goggles. The ST '09 trailer did not invent welding.
a recent one for example is Star Wars Rebels, it was a kids show that was on Disney XD, and it was Dripping with great stories and deep cuts into lore. Just because its labeled as "Kids" doesn't mean its for 5 and under.
We need to get rid of the American stereotype of "Cartoons are for Kids" its a medium, and a good one for sci fi because all you have to do to get a strange alien or alien world is DRAW IT! Its not prohibitively expensive as it is in CGI/Live action stuff!
We need to get rid of the American stereotype of "Cartoons are for Kids" its a medium, and a good one for sci fi because all you have to do to get a strange alien or alien world is DRAW IT! Its not prohibitively expensive as it is in CGI/Live action stuff!
I'm so excited for this.
Between this, Lower Decks, and Picard I couldn't be more pleased with the state of the franchise.
Between this, Lower Decks, and Picard I couldn't be more pleased with the state of the franchise.
Not only that, but we need to get rid of the misconception that children's programming can't be enjoyable for adults. Children's programming is made by adults who want to enjoy their own work, and it's expected that parents will watch it along with their children. So it's always been common for children's programming to have elements aimed at adult viewers as well, going back to the political satire in Rocky and Bullwinkle, the pop culture Easter eggs and sexual innuendo in Batman '66, etc. The kids get to enjoy it on one level while the adults can see another layer meant for them. Heck, the whole reason Doctor Who established its tradition of having pretty female companions for the Doctor was to get "the dads" to watch the show alongside their kids.
And really, there's no reason that well-done children's programming can't be enjoyable for adults simply for what it is -- good, solid storytelling. The only things that really define something as "adult" in our culture are sex, violence, profanity, drugs, and the like, and you can tell a rich, intelligent, sophisticated story without those things. Indeed, the use of such things is all too often a lazy crutch, a way to pass something off as "mature" without putting any real thought or intelligence into it. Children's programming has to be sophisticated on a more meaningful level, that of character depth and dramatic conflict, as we've seen in shows like Avatar/Korra and She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.
I have no idea why this notion even persists. Some of the most acclaimed and emotional movies of the last few decades have come from Pixar and other animation studios. Anime has also exploded in popularity in the west showing that serious stories can be told in animation just fine.
I'd also say - as a parent of a tween - I'm happy material like this exists, because just about everything marketed as for "adults" now has too much sex/violence for me to be happy watching with my 11 year old. The days of "family friendly" fare like older Trek are basically over, so if you want to watch something with your kids, you have to watch something which to some extent has been marketed for kids.
Well, you're conflating two separate questions there -- whether animation can be for adults, and whether children's programming can be enjoyable for adults. Those are two different circles on the Venn diagram. There's plenty of adult animation that's not even remotely appropriate for children, like Akira or Rick and Morty or Netflix's Love, Death, and Robots. But we're talking about whether shows that are made for children, regardless of whether they're animated (e.g. Avatar, She-Ra, or Trollhunters) or live-action (e.g. The Sarah Jane Adventures or Kamen Rider), have merits that make them enjoyable for adults as well.
And they don't even have to be "serious." There's no reason adults can't enjoy stories that are funny or light-hearted, as long as they're smart and well-done. Only people insecure in their maturity feel they have to take everything seriously and look down on fun.
Which shows how standards have changed, since in the '60s, Star Trek was seen as extremely racy with its scantily attired women and stories about alien mating urges and such.
There's also Pixar's work.
Coincidence.
Most likely, but they do love their callbacks. And it gives me an excuse to talk about one of my favorite trailers of all time.
Its the most stereotypical framing of a welder shot.
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