Regarding Ardra, I think Picard had it right: "I find you obvious and vulgar."
She really was, but some people seem to like that, apparently.
Regarding Ardra, I think Picard had it right: "I find you obvious and vulgar."
She may have been evil, but I'll be damned if she wasn't sexy as hell.
She clearly wanted Picard, and being the gentleman that he is, he refused. But if Kirk was in his place, you just *know* he wouldn't have hesitated to oblige to her sexual urges.
You know what though? I don't think she was 100% evil. I think there was some good within her and perhaps, in time, she would've seen the error of her ways while in whatever prison she was in. I think of her as a Loki-type of villain.
My point is, I wish we had seen a follow-up episode where she redeems herself by helping Picard somehow.
But yeah, good or evil, I would let her rule me anytime!![]()
Exactly.I actually think Kirk WOULD have refused Ardra's advances just like Picard did. Kirk might have been a horndog but he had a strong moral character. He wouldn't have been flattered by the attentions of a criminal holding a world hostage.
He refused the advances of Sylvia in "Catspaw(TOS)" even before he learned her true physical form. She attempted to seduce him and he shunned her advances at almost every turn, and even when he appeared to be giving in it was only to learn about her and gain an advantage to save himself and his ship.
I actually think Kirk WOULD have refused Ardra's advances just like Picard did. Kirk might have been a horndog but he had a strong moral character. He wouldn't have been flattered by the attentions of a criminal holding a world hostage.
it was the 60s...For all the talk about Kirk being a ladies man and all, it was all the ladies who made advancements towards him. He showed incredible restraint, even saying there was one lady he loved, and that was the Enterprise.
He schemed to assassinate his own chancellor. Framed Kirk and McCoy and prosecuted them himself to be sent to a gulag while being innocent. He fired at the Enterprise while cloaked and without risk for himself.
I am sorry but I don't see much honor in that.
Kor didn't seem to have much. He seemed more interested in glory and battle than honor in combat. Killing civilians to leverage against your enemy doesn't seem very honorable to me.
Kang, not Chang. Kang was in TOS episode "Day of the Dove" and declared "Only a fool fights in a burning house" against the alien being feeding off of the anger and hostility of both crews.
Chang was in the film "The Undiscovered Country" and had a tendency to quote Shakespeare. Also, an eye patch.
So was I. He doesn't strike me as honor driven. More glory driven.I'm talking more of Kor as he was the then Governor of Organia in Errand of Mercy! I haven't seen the three DS9 episodes as of yet!
JB
So was I. He doesn't strike me as honor driven. More glory driven.
Well glory I can see in his portrayal and the honour was a later thing, but I always thought of Kor and Kang having something good about them too!Then again he did have all of those Organians executed as well didn't he and that wasn't honourable! Didn't he?
JB
Not saying that Kor didn't have some potential good points but he wasn't honorable. He was ruthless, claiming right to expand by sheer might alone, willing to execute Organians if it suited his overall goal, and break Spock's mind in the name of information. The fact that he became sympathetic in DS9 shows a rather interesting character turn.Well glory I can see in his portrayal and the honour was a later thing, but I always thought of Kor and Kang having something good about them too!Then again he did have all of those Organians executed as well didn't he and that wasn't honourable! Didn't he?
JB
The gradual peace process with the Federation clearly softened some of the Empire's most hardened warriors. Kang. Kor. And Koloth.
Well, Kor was personable and urbane but he didn't hesitate to kill hundreds of hostages and was totally prepared to scramble Kirk's brain if he saw it as necessary. A person's good manners do not prevent them from killing you in certain circumstances.
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