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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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“If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home, and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here! It's wondrous...with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid.”
I think Q who...
Exactly.
Speaking of silicon, it would be kind of like if, in "The Devil in the Dark," Vanderberg had swiped a phaser-2 from one of the Enterprise people and killed the Mother Horta while Spock was still trying to make peace with her.
Last I checked, HIV is not sentient.
And Picard may have had to go there, but she took it upon herself to be judge, jury, and executioner. And not for any noble, heroic reason, but because it had hurt her, and she was going to hurt it back.
Hardly the foundation of an evolved civilization.
Not exactly the crystal thing wasn't seeking revenge on people attacking its progeny. Plus unlike the Horta, it didn't have anything to offer except stop killing people... Yeah, like that was gonna happen... Plus as I said there was the danger of it escaping and killing ye another settlement before the Enterprise could catch up with it. But why would they care they are protected, so what if ten thousand more colonists pay for their experiment... I doubt they'll lose any sleep over it. They never have before.
Notice that I said "kind of like" and not "exactly like." It's as if I acknowledged that there are differences between the situations up front.
How is it more evolved to put thousands of colonists at risk for the sake of an experiment in communication? The thing was traveling at high warp. What made them so sure that they could keep it from fleeing and destroying yet another settlement before they could catch up with it. Remember how fast it happened in the beginning.
Why did Kirk fail to communicate with the red corpuscle eating cloud? Is he the bad guy?
I've no objection to interacting with new species as long as they're not systematically trying to kill me or my kind. The only kind of interaction that the CE has had with people until then was destroying everything around. Plus the damning fact that it conspired with Lore TWICE!
Yeah, it's another bogus reason. Riker could very well have given Geordi his eyesight back and then decided not to be a Q anymore. In which case Geordi's sight would have been completely free of charge but hey, far be it from to deprive a would-be martyr of an occasion to become one.
but how do we know that Q wouldn’t have just taken Geordi’s sight away again.
If it’s perceived that Riker pulled a fast one just get his buddy eyesight I don’t think Q would have just sat there wagging his finger saying “you may have won this round Riker…but I’ll get you next time”.
Indeed yes. Made all the worse by the fact that they were trying to communicate and receiving a response. The possibility of dialog was cut short. It was vengeance, pure and simple.
Right. Yes, it cost Geordi nothing and Geordi would not be in debt to anyone. Riker was the one contemplating dealing with the devil.
I'd like a million dollars but I don't want my wife to sleep with/kill/get sold in servitude or slavery to another person in order to get the money. I mean, I know it wouldn't cost me anything as I'm not the person involved, but that doesn't mean I'd be OK with my wife's decision.
This was what, Q's second appearance? There was not any reason to trust Q or take him at his word. There was no knowledge on how the power of Q might even affect Riker on a physical or psychological level.
Geordi could have viewed or believed accepting Riker's gift would have been perceived as giving Riker his approval or blessing or encouragement to join Q and become like Q.
As I rmeember,the Enterpise crew was able to find someof their metaphors explained by the Computer.
So those must have been Tamarian stories which other aliens learned, or else stories in the history of other civilizatiions which the Tamarians learned. Either way, there must have been previous contact between Tamarians and other aliens. So the Tamarians should know that other people don't speak in metaphors and don't undersand Tamarian metaphors at first - but don't act like they know it..
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In “Hide and Q,” they are basically in a fight to “save Riker’s soul from the devil.”
Geordi refuses the gift of natural eyesight completely on this basis. To accept is to enable Riker’s path toward being a Q. Geordi had absolutely no choice in the matter, if they were to successfully save his friend and fellow officer.
Geordi refuses the gift of natural eyesight completely on this basis. To accept is to enable Riker’s path toward being a Q. Geordi had absolutely no choice in the matter, if they were to successfully save his friend and fellow officer.
Because in that case, Q would have made them dead again. Remember that they all died before Riker brought them back to life which makes his not helping the little girl all the more outrageous.
Geordi is a cipher, a plot point, not a person.
"I will forgo having real eyes so that Riker is not incited to remain a Q"
Yeah, that's plausible... in a pig's eye (as Bones would say).
But since none of this is real, whatever... You can believe what you want.
Riker (to Picard): "How did you know?"
Picard:" I read the script."
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Exactly. Geordi isn't willing to give up Riker's humanity in the name of "gifts. "
sure ok then
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