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Babylon 5

Now he is annoying Mr. Lennier in customs while he waits for Ambassador Delenn's return.

I had a similar experience with an overly friendly/intrusive stranger on a flight from Indianapolis to Cincinnati 8 years ago. The gentleman next to me insisted on trying to engage me in conversation despite my clear unwillingness to talk. I had been up all night and this flight was the first leg of a long journey to London, so I was in no mood to talk. I tried to make it as obvious as I could that I wasn't interested in conversing, but he asked me about almost everything ranging from where I was headed to what my parents do. Eventually, I just closed my eyes and ignored him having exhausted my limited supply of one-word answers to his questions. I got the feeling that he was a little taken aback by my rudeness, but as I said, I was very tired.

Being British, I'm not sure if this comes down to a cultural difference, but I can tell you that I am not likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger in a setting like this even in the best of times. I only wish I had replied as Lennier did; the mention of a terminal (contagious) illness likely would've gotten me out of that situation a lot sooner.
 
Oh, I absolutely HATE when a stranger wants to have an in-depth conversation I can't walk away from. last time was waiting for my car to be serviced at the dealership. I even got the guy's wife's brother's life story. I just wanted to read my magazine.
 
It's a tough call. I've had some lovely conversations with strangers while travelling, but I don't usually seek them out. I do typically have my headphones or such on, but I don't mean to actively seem unapproachable, I just find they help me relax (especially relevant during air travel).

I imagine that if someone was being annoying I'd say something like, "I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I've been meaning to do X, and I'd like to focus on it now." Just ignoring the person or getting pissy if they're making a genuine-if-misguided attempt at friendliness, to me, seems like a bit of a dick move.

Anyway, it's worth humoring them at least initially...who knows you might meet someone worth keeping in touch with!
 
The nice thing about this ep is the genuinely shocked and ashamed look on Londo's face when G'kar reminds him just how horrifically oppressive the penalties are if a Narn harms a Centauri. It's brief, but it shows Londo is conflicted about what it has taken to restore "Centauri greatness", just as he looked horrified by the use of mass drivers in an earlier ep.
 
I had a similar experience with an overly friendly/intrusive stranger on a flight from Indianapolis to Cincinnati 8 years ago. The gentleman next to me insisted on trying to engage me in conversation despite my clear unwillingness to talk. I had been up all night and this flight was the first leg of a long journey to London, so I was in no mood to talk. I tried to make it as obvious as I could that I wasn't interested in conversing, but he asked me about almost everything ranging from where I was headed to what my parents do. Eventually, I just closed my eyes and ignored him having exhausted my limited supply of one-word answers to his questions. I got the feeling that he was a little taken aback by my rudeness, but as I said, I was very tired.

Being British, I'm not sure if this comes down to a cultural difference, but I can tell you that I am not likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger in a setting like this even in the best of times. I only wish I had replied as Lennier did; the mention of a terminal (contagious) illness likely would've gotten me out of that situation a lot sooner.

Mr. Lennier mentions having "Netter's Syndrome," named for Douglas Netter who was an Executive Producer for the show.

To avoid conversations on a flight with strangers, I always take my laptop, put on head phones and watch a Blu-ray or DVD movie, or listen to some music.
 
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Oh, I absolutely HATE when a stranger wants to have an in-depth conversation I can't walk away from. last time was waiting for my car to be serviced at the dealership. I even got the guy's wife's brother's life story. I just wanted to read my magazine.

One of the many reasons I bring a book and a Switch on any plane flight.
A pack of peanuts can do wonders as well.
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If someone shares my interests enough to have a fun in depth conversation about something, I'm game.

No, I don't want to spend my plane flight giving you a readers digest autobiography and listing attractions in the place the plane is going.

But that still sounds way better than the people who talk at you unbroken about themselves with no interest in even your awkward personal details.
 
I had a similar experience with an overly friendly/intrusive stranger on a flight from Indianapolis to Cincinnati 8 years ago. The gentleman next to me insisted on trying to engage me in conversation despite my clear unwillingness to talk. I had been up all night and this flight was the first leg of a long journey to London, so I was in no mood to talk. I tried to make it as obvious as I could that I wasn't interested in conversing, but he asked me about almost everything ranging from where I was headed to what my parents do. Eventually, I just closed my eyes and ignored him having exhausted my limited supply of one-word answers to his questions. I got the feeling that he was a little taken aback by my rudeness, but as I said, I was very tired.

Being British, I'm not sure if this comes down to a cultural difference, but I can tell you that I am not likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger in a setting like this even in the best of times. I only wish I had replied as Lennier did; the mention of a terminal (contagious) illness likely would've gotten me out of that situation a lot sooner.

Perhaps it was cultural as Brits aren't always direct and often we'll drop perhaps too subtle hints about what we want to do or not do.
 
Moments of Transition

Why do they think that giving the Worker caste a straight majority is a solution? Just because they've been the least cantankerous over the last few days?
 
Moments of Transition

Why do they think that giving the Worker caste a straight majority is a solution? Just because they've been the least cantankerous over the last few days?

Probably.

The Worker caste would be seen as the most level-headed and 'neutral' of the three castes. Their position as simple builders and laborers wouldn't be as prone to passions and outbursts.
 
I had a similar experience with an overly friendly/intrusive stranger on a flight from Indianapolis to Cincinnati 8 years ago. The gentleman next to me insisted on trying to engage me in conversation despite my clear unwillingness to talk. I had been up all night and this flight was the first leg of a long journey to London, so I was in no mood to talk. I tried to make it as obvious as I could that I wasn't interested in conversing, but he asked me about almost everything ranging from where I was headed to what my parents do. Eventually, I just closed my eyes and ignored him having exhausted my limited supply of one-word answers to his questions. I got the feeling that he was a little taken aback by my rudeness, but as I said, I was very tired.

Being British, I'm not sure if this comes down to a cultural difference, but I can tell you that I am not likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger in a setting like this even in the best of times. I only wish I had replied as Lennier did; the mention of a terminal (contagious) illness likely would've gotten me out of that situation a lot sooner.
Being British is... knowing you do not talk to people on the tube. Ever.
 
Watching The Illusion of Truth.

Looks like Fox News survives to the future. That must be how they replaced ISN so quickly. They just gave ISN to Fox News.

Not sure I'm going to watch season 5 when I get there. It's not that any part of it is that bad, it just has no real resolution. Besides the finale, it ends by teasing a war against Psi Corps that we never see.

2018 - Foundation for Luna Colony Laid

Scifi writers are so optimistic about timelines.
Star Cops is set in 2026. That was 40 years later at the time. Five big space stations, lots of smaller labs, a big Moonbase, and a small Mars base. 5000 people out on the high frontier.
 
Probably.

The Worker caste would be seen as the most level-headed and 'neutral' of the three castes. Their position as simple builders and laborers wouldn't be as prone to passions and outbursts.

That's how Delenn idealized them in that moment, but that doesn't track beyond the surface. They might not start wars or follow prophecy but they'd have their own set of biases and special needs. Unless the population between the three castes isn't as evenly distributed as they make it seem, it's just giving 1/3 of the population resourcing supremacy.
 
To avoid conversations on a flight with strangers, I always take my laptop, put on head phones and watch a Blu-ray or DVD movie, or listen to some music.

I prefer the Brian Haley method. :D

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(it's at about 3:20)

it's just giving 1/3 of the population resourcing supremacy.

What better element of the population to be given "supremacy" than those who don't particularly care if they have it? ;)
 
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Regarding the spoiler tags...

Who better to reconstruct a society that has been shattered by extreme passions for war and religion than a group of builders and engineers? That's essentially the Worker caste.

Even B'Elanna Torres once said it's the engineers who build societies.
 
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