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Babylon 5

Lyndisty, however awful, was a product of her upbringing and a lot of what she believed was a result of trying to please the men around her.

So we have reason to think that
if she did become the wife of an egalitarian emperor she'd update her politics to make him happy.
Was Turhan a jerk before some doctor told him that he had 6 weeks to live.

If he said "I always wanted to see a Vorlon" three times a day, every day, I'm going to conclude dementia, and that's why he didn't see like the head of a very corrupt fish.
 
^Would that be the Edward Woodward who was the father of Morgan Woodward?

Edward is the father of Peter Woodward (Galen from Crusade), not Morgan (who is not only unrelated to Edward, but is in fact older than him).

Morgan Woodward was in a few episodes of original Trek - "Dagger of the Mind" (as Dr. Simon van Gelder) and "The Omega Glory" (Capt. Ronald Tracey).
 
Yeah, looks like we were both talking about the same people but also both got our wires crossed on the actual names. :)
 
"The Fall of Night"

As the Great Conflict seems to loom ever closer, we see clearer than ever that Sheridan isn't backed by a planet of good guys.

Whether it's the sleazy leader of the Night Watch (not recalling his name I'll call him Lord Commander) or the preening "negotiator" played by Roy Dotrice, the season 2 finale constantly reminds us that Earth is rotten - what use will they end up serving in the coming fight?

Second half of the episode really hit another gear from the tense battle with the Centauri ship to the assassination attempt on Sheridan. This of course led to a long-awaited reveal to the question: what's in the suit, Kosh?

Kosh never struck me as particularly angelic; over the past two seasons, he's come off as bizarre, cryptic, isolated, uncaring, rude, even arrogant to a degree. I guess it goes to show that the side of "good" doesn't have to be all rainbows and sunshine. I'd love to meet other Vorlons to see if they're all like Kosh.

Keffer (a character I routinely forgot existed) served his apparent purpose by recording video evidence of the Shadows before dying rather horribly. This alerts B5 and Earth to the foe that awaits - but based on this episode, I can only assume that Earth will attempt to propose a non-aggression treaty with them(!).

Deepening the show's lore and demonstrating more consistency with fewer lows and greater heights, season 2 was a marked improvement on the first while setting the stage for an intense third year. The Narn/Centauri conflict was excellently scripted with an impressive crescendo. Beneath it all, the ominous Shadows were built up as a credible and fearsome enemy, leaving us with a sense that while the battle is over - now comes the war.

Rating: ****

-Londo sees nothing when Kosh shows his true form - true of all Centauri or only Londo?
-Given that the Vorlons are space angels, you'd think they might travel in something other than those weird organic ships. Though I get the feeling I'm not even scratching the surface in terms of how much there remains to learn about the Vorlons.

Also, since I've now finished two seasons, here are my top 10 episodes thus far:

1. Confessions and Lamentations
2. The Long, Twilight Struggle
3. Chrysalis
4. The Coming of Shadows
5. Soul Mates
6. In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum
7. Babylon Squared
8. The Fall of Night
9. GROPOS
10. And the Sky Full of Stars

I'll make this a spoiler, It describes what you already have seen, but might not be what you have figured out yet. I was able to figure out the first time I had seen the Episode "All Alone In The Night," and "The Fall of Night" confirmed my suspicions about the Vorlons. If you haven't figured it out yet, the spoiler will be safe to read after you watch the episode in season 4, "Falling Toward Apotheosis."

The Vorlons are a telepathic species. Kosh projected to all who viewed him what he wanted them to see. It is also why he went to his quarters to rest afterward, because his telepathic projection to so many tired him out. He projected nothing to Londo, because he knows Londo is allied with the Shadows, and he wanted Londo to see nothing. You will see the actual physical appearance of the Vorlons, without the projection they want you to see, in the Season 4 episode "Falling Toward Apotheosis."

In Season 3 and 4 the series really picks up the pace. Some of the best episodes in the series are yet to come!
 
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I'll just say that we don't really know whether Kosh was actually tired from his efforts, or whether that was just part of the act as well. I'm also not sure it's ever made entirely clear that Kosh intentionally chose to show Londo nothing. IIRC the "Fall of Centauri Prime" novels have a dying Londo revisit that moment in his mind and see something.
 
Yeah, looks like we were both talking about the same people but also both got our wires crossed on the actual names. :)
Yes, I should have said Peter. Tim is his brother, used to play WW2 RAF types when younger, most recently was in Peaky Blinders. Played the young McCall in a flashback in Equaliser.
 
I'll just say that we don't really know whether Kosh was actually tired from his efforts, or whether that was just part of the act as well. I'm also not sure it's ever made entirely clear that Kosh intentionally chose to show Londo nothing. IIRC the "Fall of Centauri Prime" novels have a dying Londo revisit that moment in his mind and see something.


There is an area of The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5 called JMS speaks:

A small portion from that section of JMS speaks for the episode The Fall of Night:
  • The more people who have to *see* Kosh as one of their own, the greater the strain on Kosh, as you'll note in the first ep of year three.
  • Nnnnnnoo, not really; the Centauri don't actually have an equivalent to G'Quan or Valen.
    Believe it or not, this one answer may add another layer to a scene in one of the last episodes of this season. You can infer it backwards once you see it, but now you'll have it going in.
  • They [Centauri] believe in a variety of afterlives; the god you worship, of the centauri pantheon, holds dominion over a given "heaven" or afterworld. If you appease the god sufficiently during life, it will accept you into that afterworld, in preparation for the day when all heavens are united; if not, you will have to be reborn and choose another until one accepts you.
  • Londo saw what he said he saw.
 
In Season 3, pretty much everything you think you've figured out already, turns out there is so much more complexity and subtlety.
 
"Matters of Honor"

The third season opened with our heroes being given a powerful new ship - fitted with technology from several races - so as to better prepare them against the foe that lay ahead. Yes, "The Search": an enjoyable instalment of Deep Space Nine. Anyway, now that I've finished rewatching that episode, onto Babylon 5.

The third season opens with our heroes being given a powerful new ship - fitted with technology from several races - so as to better prepare them against the foe that lies ahead. What's more, with a single device, the setting of the show has been opened up - it's now a lot more practical and plausible for groups of major characters to travel off-station and really explore.

And it wouldn't be a new season without the introduction of a new character, so it's a hello to Mr Marcus Cole. What's he about? He's an able fighter and smooth talker - let's hope he has more to offer the show than the late Keffer.

As expected, Earth sends a meddler to investigate Keffer's recording of the Shadow. I describe him as a meddler because that's how he's both treated and portrayed - Sheridan doesn't think twice about deceiving him or ditching him to go and help the Rangers. It's clear where his loyalties lie - not to mention how we're supposed to feel about Earth representatives at this point.

Elsewhere, Kosh is tired from the strain of showing himself to so many. Zack Allan is a main character now. And Londo tries to break it off with Morden and the Shadows - but they have their fingers in many pies. Motivation? Is he afraid of their power and seeking to distance himself from them, or does he actually believe that they're no longer of any use to him?

That's about all. Not exactly the most groundbreaking season opener in terms of story (when it began, they were on the verge of war; when it ended, they were on the verge of war... but look! There's also a new face around AND a new ship!) but at this point, it's just fun to spend time in this (rapidly expanding) world.

Rating: ***

-"I really hate it when you do that." "Good."
-A new season brings a new intro and a new colour palette. I like how each season has its own distinct look and "feel."
 
Third season may be my favorite overall. Certainly the opening credits are more dynamic, for obvious reasons, than those for the prior two.

I generally like Marcus, and he adds some nice variables to the cast interactions, but there are flaws in his character that will become apparent over time (especially if you read some of the B5-related works) that make it hard for me to entirely embrace him. But then, all the best characters have flaws?

If you're just tuning into the series, the reveal of what the investigator is really up to must be a pretty big surprise. I would think it still must have been a bit of a surprise when it aired. Unfortunately I saw this episode out of sequence, so I had some sense of what was coming.
 
"And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place". But we're not really there yet in terms of ongoing discussion? Not a big deal though.

I like Marcus overall too but he could have had more depth. He came off as a bit idealized to me, but shallowly idealized.

I thought we were all talking about where we are in the series.
 
I always loved Marcus.

If you ever get a chance to meet Jason Carter, DO SO! The man is hilarious, a ball of energy, really great with fans, and just a cool guy all around. One of my favorite people I've met over the years.
 
I love the third season title sequence. Like you said - dynamic! The first time I saw it I did a double take. As Susan says "it failed," we see an energy bolt go by, then a Star Fury zooms into frame. Then another energy bolt and another Star Fury, and the trailing Star Fury is shooting at the first one, and blows it up. Wait, WHAT??? What did I just see? HOLY CRAP! What's happening?? Then that wonderful bombastic music. Gave me chills. And that killer spinning tour of the station exterior with the cast popping up in hyperspace vortexes. Just brilliant.
 
And I loved the use of the music from "THE LONG, TWILIGHT STRUGGLE" in the beginning part, then the move to the rest of the thene music.

I think the song for this season was the best one, with season 4 and 5 neck and neck as my second favorite.
 
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