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Spoilers DC’s Legends of Tomorrow Season 6

Oh, yeah. Come to think of it, all that talk about Aleister Crowley being imprisoned on Earth must have been to set up a future appearance by him, I guess as a source of intel for Constantine/the Legends.
Yeah, that definitely felt like set up for some kind of appearance later in the season.
In some of the EW stuff last week they mentioned a human big bad, but we didn't see any sign of him yet.
EDIT: Just read EW's post premiere interview with co-showrunner Phil Klemmer, and it turns out we'll meet the big bad, Bishop, next week. He's on the planet Gary and Sara were falling towards at the end of this week's episode. According to Klemmer, Bishop is the one who Gary and Kayla were taking Sara to, and he has an army that connects back to past seasons of Legends.
Klemmer also said that they paired Sara up with Gary because they wanted her to be with someone who was useless, so she would get all the action. They decided to make Gary an alien as they were working on this season, which is pretty obvious since they probably would have put some kind of clues or hints towards it earlier if that had been the plan all along.
 
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What was cool about the Gary reveal was that when we first saw the smaller alien moving around with his hunched, nervous posture, I looked at it and thought, "That alien reminds me of Gary." Then I remembered that the promos had shown Sara and Gary together on the alien ship, and at first I thought that the smaller alien was going to open one of those freezing tubes and reveal Gary inside, but then, just a few moments before the reveal, I thought, "No, wait... the alien is Gary?"

I wonder if it was actually Adam Tsekhman inside the alien suit, or a suit actor mimicking his body language. I think it was more likely the latter, since suit acting is kind of a specialized skill, and someone who isn't experienced at it wouldn't be as good at projecting body language through a heavy costume as an experienced suit actor would, even if it's his own regular character's body language. And just in general, if you don't see an actor's face, it's usually a double wearing the costume.
 
Spooner’s gun appears to be a German C96 at its core, same gun that Han Solo’s blaster is made from.
 
I’m getting a feeling that Spooner might be a alien. Could explain how she has those abilities with no augmentations.
 
The bug alien sounded like Mothra. At the beginning of the episode I was wondering why they didn’t just call the hamburger place Big Belly Burger but they didn’t because they wanted to show its origin.
 
Definitely leaning into the '50s B-movie influence this week (though Mothra debuted in 1961). Although they glossed over one major facet of the period, i.e. racial segregation. Although it's California, so maybe they were a bit more progressive there?

Also, if most people in the 1950s heard you talking about "aliens," they'd think you meant foreigners. The term was only occasionally used to mean space creatures outside of prose science fiction, though it did crop up in the occasional '50s SF film (I find it was used a couple of times in Invasion of the Body Snatchers and in one of the advertising taglines for Invaders from Mars). But outside of that context, it was mostly still used to mean foreigners, so it would take more clarification to specify that you meant beings from outer space.

Not sure if "Big Bang Burger" is an anachronism. The term "Big Bang" was coined in 1949, but a Google Ngram search shows that the phrase was little-used in print until after 1955 when its use ramped up somewhat, and then really spiked in the '80s and after (though oddly it's been declining since 1999). I did find it used in reference to the cosmological theory in a 1951 Popular Science issue, though, so I guess the idea was out there. Still, in that decade, the term "big bang" was more often used to refer to atomic explosions. But then, a lot of people in those days expected spaceships to be atomic-powered, so it could still work.

Anyway, it was quite easy to predict that the episode would end with the place being renamed Big Belly Burger. That's obviously the real reason the writers chose the name.

I wonder what the deal is with Amelia Earhart. She's clearly part of some sort of trap, but has she been mutated, or is she an alien impostor programmed to act like Earhart?


I’m getting a feeling that Spooner might be a alien. Could explain how she has those abilities with no augmentations.

Sounds more like she was altered when she was abducted. I mean, we've already had one cast member turn out to be a secret alien -- why repeat themselves?
 
Great little TOS reference from Gary there whilst exploring the alien landscape. Singing plants, indeed.
 
Gary...Gary...Gary.
Hmmm, so he's really an alien. But (and I may be misremembering), hasn't Gideon operated on him before-impaled by a unicorn? And she healed him without detecting he wasn't human? How'd he pass the Time Bureau physical? HR really dropped the ball. :cardie:
 
Hmmm, so he's really an alien. But (and I may be misremembering), hasn't Gideon operated on him before-impaled by a unicorn? And she healed him without detecting he wasn't human? How'd he pass the Time Bureau physical?

I'm assuming that his glasses don't just create a holo-disguise but physically shapeshift him.
 
I wonder if it was actually Adam Tsekhman inside the alien suit, or a suit actor mimicking his body language. I think it was more likely the latter, since suit acting is kind of a specialized skill, and someone who isn't experienced at it wouldn't be as good at projecting body language through a heavy costume as an experienced suit actor would, even if it's his own regular character's body language. And just in general, if you don't see an actor's face, it's usually a double wearing the costume.

Ah, I was right. Alien Gary is played by stunt performer Chris Olson: https://www.cbr.com/legends-tomorrow-season-6-adam-tsekhman-interview/
 
I can't wait for the day when we find out what the heck went on with Dominic Purcell. He's in this episode for the first few minutes then just disappears without mention. Come to think of it, it's far from the first episode where this happens. (And then there's the ones where he's basically off in his own show separate from everyone else.)
 
Definitely leaning into the '50s B-movie influence this week (though Mothra debuted in 1961). Although they glossed over one major facet of the period, i.e. racial segregation. Although it's California, so maybe they were a bit more progressive there?

Also, if most people in the 1950s heard you talking about "aliens," they'd think you meant foreigners. The term was only occasionally used to mean space creatures outside of prose science fiction, though it did crop up in the occasional '50s SF film (I find it was used a couple of times in Invasion of the Body Snatchers and in one of the advertising taglines for Invaders from Mars). But outside of that context, it was mostly still used to mean foreigners, so it would take more clarification to specify that you meant beings from outer space.

Not sure if "Big Bang Burger" is an anachronism. The term "Big Bang" was coined in 1949, but a Google Ngram search shows that the phrase was little-used in print until after 1955 when its use ramped up somewhat, and then really spiked in the '80s and after (though oddly it's been declining since 1999). I did find it used in reference to the cosmological theory in a 1951 Popular Science issue, though, so I guess the idea was out there. Still, in that decade, the term "big bang" was more often used to refer to atomic explosions. But then, a lot of people in those days expected spaceships to be atomic-powered, so it could still work.

Anyway, it was quite easy to predict that the episode would end with the place being renamed Big Belly Burger. That's obviously the real reason the writers chose the name.

I wonder what the deal is with Amelia Earhart. She's clearly part of some sort of trap, but has she been mutated, or is she an alien impostor programmed to act like Earhart?




Sounds more like she was altered when she was abducted. I mean, we've already had one cast member turn out to be a secret alien -- why repeat themselves?

Do we REALLY expect Legends to have any serious continuity? Do we really expect them to talk about segregation if it is not a plot point? Do we REALLY care that they are approximating the time period fo their homages? Does Alien Mothra sounding like Godzilla really matter for our enjoyment?

But i did like the origin of Big Belly Burger.

Gary...Gary...Gary.
Hmmm, so he's really an alien. But (and I may be misremembering), hasn't Gideon operated on him before-impaled by a unicorn? And she healed him without detecting he wasn't human? How'd he pass the Time Bureau physical? HR really dropped the ball. :cardie:


So none of you saw the chrysalis hanging in Gary's room in the first episode?

Seem like they made it plain how he seemed human the whole time. (Kinda like Delenn or Sinclair transformations in Babylon 5).

I hope we all know this was just a convenient retcon to give Gary an excuse to be with Sara.

And the engaged to Kayla thing... completely ignores his budding romance with Mona (and other infatuations). They have also ignored the whole Time Bureau history and disappearance, right?

I definitely don't expect much continuity or seriousness with Legends. Who here really does?

I'm assuming that his glasses don't just create a holo-disguise but physically shapeshift him.

What it is, is a convenient way to have Gary on the show without being an alien, but explaining alien stuff. Considering the budget for Legends, I understand and just go with it.

I can't wait for the day when we find out what the heck went on with Dominic Purcell. He's in this episode for the first few minutes then just disappears without mention. Come to think of it, it's far from the first episode where this happens. (And then there's the ones where he's basically off in his own show separate from everyone else.)

Sees like they were purposely sidelining him for some reason. Maybe we will find out the real reasons after the show ends??
 
Do we REALLY expect Legends to have any serious continuity? Do we really expect them to talk about segregation if it is not a plot point? Do we REALLY care that they are approximating the time period fo their homages? Does Alien Mothra sounding like Godzilla really matter for our enjoyment?

But i did like the origin of Big Belly Burger.




So none of you saw the chrysalis hanging in Gary's room in the first episode?

Seem like they made it plain how he seemed human the whole time. (Kinda like Delenn or Sinclair transformations in Babylon 5).

I hope we all know this was just a convenient retcon to give Gary an excuse to be with Sara.

And the engaged to Kayla thing... completely ignores his budding romance with Mona (and other infatuations). They have also ignored the whole Time Bureau history and disappearance, right?

I definitely don't expect much continuity or seriousness with Legends. Who here really does?


What it is, is a convenient way to have Gary on the show without being an alien, but explaining alien stuff. Considering the budget for Legends, I understand and just go with it.



Sees like they were purposely sidelining him for some reason. Maybe we will find out the real reasons after the show ends??


Between the legends and Barry Allen mucking around with time travel, $deity knows how much of the timeline has been written and re-written :)
 
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