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Spoilers Ah, the NEW uniforms...!

The DSC uniform metallic trim was like these braids - gold for command and silver for science, but bronze for ops/security, not red chrome like this. So yeah, they changed it again. :lol:

I believe at the time it was quite well reported that, when first constructed, the Discoprise uniforms had no cuff rank insignia until someone from marketing (IRRC) pointed it out to them! This was likely due to the fact that the designers copied over the style from the blue DSC uniforms, which had no cuff ranks. Apparently the first few scenes were already in the can so as well as adding rank insignia to the cuffs of the physical costumes they also went back and digitally added them to the uniforms in those scenes which had already been shot -- I'm fairly sure that's what you're seeing in that lift scene.

The lighting makes it very hard to tell but I think the real metallic cuff stripes that they eventually used do actually tie back to the division colours on the DSC uniforms, so command has gold (always awkward on yellow tops), sciences have silver and operations have copper/bronze.


The TNG pip match US Navy rank markers more or less, I wonder why the TOS or at least the DSC Enterprise sleeve stripes do not match the same way. With Captain = 4 full stripes.

I think the thought behind it, production wise, was to keep it visually simple.

Yep, single cuff stripe for all officers in The Cage, which was changed too add a second stripe to help identify the Captain in WNMHGB; then there's the background appearance off the "ladder" braid, supposedly for CPO.

By the time of TOS proper, they updated the uniform tops with brighter colours and added the new expanded scheme of rank stripes in a combination of wavy braid and dashed stripes. Apparently, Gene wanted cuff rank stripes to help emphasise the "nautical" feel of the show but they wanted a system that was entirely theirs and not a direct lift from any established contemporary naval insignia. I seem to recall that the reduced number of stripes was also intended to make them look "less military."


They're from TOS, actually... or are they silver?

The plain stripes and the use of a thin stripe instead of the wavy and broken stripes from TOS was something that happened with the Kelvinverse. The TOS insignia of two wavy stripes and a central broken stripe for captain was deliberately intended to be completely different to any existing contemporary insignia, whereas in the Kelvinverse configuration the captain insignia looks very much like that for a contemporary lieutenant commander -- which seems both unnecessary and avoidable.

Similarly, copying the pattern of the Kelvinverse insignia to the DSC Enterprise uniforms was just kinda lazy and uninformed (especially given that they had initially missed them out entirely!).
 
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I made some Uniform variants, what do you folks think?

Which one do you prefer?
 
Those look familiar... :nyah: :hugegrin:

I used the "double-stripe" version way back near the start of the thread for the grey versions of the uniform -- only that was as a potential flag officer variant, which kinda made more sense when the stripe was the division colour.

I still really, really dislike the asymmetric bottom hem. It's just an unnecessary design affectation and looks even worse now it's far more obvious because the jacket and trousers are different colours. :vulcan:

Seriously Gersha, get over it already...!!
 
I'm sorry, but I've really hated all of the Starfleet uniforms introduced in DIS. They're all my least favorite Starfleet uniforms, and the new Season 4 versions aren't much of an improvement to me.
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