Spoilers Ah, the NEW uniforms...!

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  1. Pubert

    Pubert Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Probably took off the discovery piping and possibly the goofy looking collar.
     
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  2. Saul

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    The collar looks really tight on the actors. The less details on the Uniform the better.
     
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  3. Pubert

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    Yup.
     
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  4. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    At first I thought Babylon 5 look, but then there's photos of them in different colours for season 4... So I'm onboard now.
     
  5. Blue Squadron

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    I believe at the time it was quite well reported that, when first constructed, the Discoprise uniforms had no cuff rank insignia until someone from marketing (IRRC) pointed it out to them! This was likely due to the fact that the designers copied over the style from the blue DSC uniforms, which had no cuff ranks. Apparently the first few scenes were already in the can so as well as adding rank insignia to the cuffs of the physical costumes they also went back and digitally added them to the uniforms in those scenes which had already been shot -- I'm fairly sure that's what you're seeing in that lift scene.

    The lighting makes it very hard to tell but I think the real metallic cuff stripes that they eventually used do actually tie back to the division colours on the DSC uniforms, so command has gold (always awkward on yellow tops), sciences have silver and operations have copper/bronze.


    Yep, single cuff stripe for all officers in The Cage, which was changed too add a second stripe to help identify the Captain in WNMHGB; then there's the background appearance off the "ladder" braid, supposedly for CPO.

    By the time of TOS proper, they updated the uniform tops with brighter colours and added the new expanded scheme of rank stripes in a combination of wavy braid and dashed stripes. Apparently, Gene wanted cuff rank stripes to help emphasise the "nautical" feel of the show but they wanted a system that was entirely theirs and not a direct lift from any established contemporary naval insignia. I seem to recall that the reduced number of stripes was also intended to make them look "less military."


    The plain stripes and the use of a thin stripe instead of the wavy and broken stripes from TOS was something that happened with the Kelvinverse. The TOS insignia of two wavy stripes and a central broken stripe for captain was deliberately intended to be completely different to any existing contemporary insignia, whereas in the Kelvinverse configuration the captain insignia looks very much like that for a contemporary lieutenant commander -- which seems both unnecessary and avoidable.

    Similarly, copying the pattern of the Kelvinverse insignia to the DSC Enterprise uniforms was just kinda lazy and uninformed (especially given that they had initially missed them out entirely!).
     
  6. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Stupid producers and their stupid stupidness.
     
  7. Blue Squadron

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    Don't be shy now -- say what you really think...
    :vulcan::rommie:
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    Nah, that about summed it up. I figure most things can be summed up with just burning the producers in effigy.
     
  9. KamenRiderBlade

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    Too much Assymetry with the 32nd Century Uniform.

    Please make them Symmetrical =D
     
  10. KamenRiderBlade

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    I made some Uniform variants, what do you folks think?

    Which one do you prefer?
     
  11. Dukhat

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    Definitely the last one is the best. The first two look like bowling shirts and the third is too plain.
     
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  12. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    That last one reminds me too much of Orville
     
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  13. Dukhat

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    Another point in its favor :)
     
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  14. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Looks like Wilbur to me.
     
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  15. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    You do raise a good point here. I wish they'd hurry the fuck up about season 3
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    Still has the neck device.
     
  17. KamenRiderBlade

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    Do you want me to make variants without the neck rank badge?

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  18. Blue Squadron

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    Those look familiar... :nyah: :hugegrin:

    I used the "double-stripe" version way back near the start of the thread for the grey versions of the uniform -- only that was as a potential flag officer variant, which kinda made more sense when the stripe was the division colour.

    I still really, really dislike the asymmetric bottom hem. It's just an unnecessary design affectation and looks even worse now it's far more obvious because the jacket and trousers are different colours. :vulcan:

    Seriously Gersha, get over it already...!!
     
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  19. C.E. Evans

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    I'm sorry, but I've really hated all of the Starfleet uniforms introduced in DIS. They're all my least favorite Starfleet uniforms, and the new Season 4 versions aren't much of an improvement to me.
    :sigh:
     
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  20. fireproof78

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    Slightly better. I like the third one the best, despite the asymmetry.