What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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The mission in "Chain Of Command" makes no sense whatsoever.
First, their reason for sending Picard is that he's worked with the technobabble thingy before, so what? Assuming he can't write that in a report, that qualifies him to be a teacher or an instructor, not a commando!!!
1) He's old
2) He has much bigger fish to fry than doing rambo stuff!!! That's called a waste of resources! Not to mention that you have to be a real asshole to send someone on a practically suicidal mission like that when he's one of the very rare persons to have ever been rescued from the Borg!!! You'd think the assholes at Starfleet headquarters would be a little more considerate than that.
Second, sending Beverly was also stupid and also a waste of resources. She's a chief medical officer. She has no business being on crude missions like that!!
Worf's inclusion in the mission makes a little more sense but even he is a little overqualified.
This kind of mission is for people who're being trained all year round for these kinds of commando missions.
It's like Starfleet is run by a bunch of incompetent fools...
Plus they're all in the same place, one single bomb would take care of them all!!!
The interactions...even when they are a little silly...between the “big 3” are the best of any of the TOS movies.
I loved when Odo threw this in Worfs face when he first moved over to DS9 and started questioning the work Odo was doing.
it made was worse on TNG when Picard was deemed too indispensable to beam down but Riker could take the 3rd in command, CMO, Chief of Security and Chief Engineer in one away team. What good is Picard if the worst happens and he’s the only one left with just a bunch of junior officers.
Me, too. That was "BAR ASSOCIATION" after Worf found the thief, and I smiled gleefully when Odo threw it back at Worf when he said, "These things did NOT happen on the Enterprise."
That smart thing production wise would have been to introduce a team of "first contact" specialists perhaps headed by the XO. Turn over some of the payroll to actors on that team rather than actors playing conn, ops and tactical, whose dialog was often giving percentages and saying "aye aye".
In the case of Geordi, I can see how advantageous it would be to have him on an away team because of his VISOR.
Scotty routinely beamed down as part of the landing party even when his value to the mission was dubious at best. There was no real reason for him to beam down to the surface of Melkot unless one surmises that he might have been useful had Melkotian technology or vessels been encountered.
No reason except to get himself, nearly killed, by a godlike creature that he kept insulting.
I don't know but I find that scene where Scotty jumps at Appollo when he's already been struck once, really funny.
What did he think was gonna happen?
This is one of the reasons I say that it is too late for a Trek/Wars crossover. I wanted Luke to be a surrogate David, and Kirk a surrogate father to Skywalker—-only to be struck down by Vader. Those could have been powerful scenes.
The skydiving scene cut out of TUC might fit in a Zach Snydered Final Frontier. Really, it would have been best as a limited series.
But you can't really defeat them, or bring them back at all, more after "The Best of Both Worlds" keeping them that unknowable/un-interactable and therefore unbeatable (now the specific *ways* Voyager beat them did weaken them too much).
It's hilarious to me to watch this discussion unfold after reading so many discussions around how Discovery and Lower Decks have completely botched the Star Trek formula of making the main character not the captain. It's like here is the perfect answer to the whole "senior staff beams on the dangerous missions" and now that's going against the Star Trek ethos. I don't understand Star Trek fans any more. "We want Star Trek to be like Star Trek except 25% more awesome and without all that stupid stuff! Argh, you took away the stupid stuff! How dare you!"
I've just watched the episode "TsunKatse" not for the first time, mind you, and there's one thing that strikes me as funny.
Penk (the slave master of the fighters) says that they're going to program a red match (a match to the death) and that it will boost the audience. So that clearly means that they advertise that fact. In fact, it's even possible that the viewing of red matches is more expensive than the one of blue matches.
Chakotay sounds like he's been studying the game for some time, he argues the finer points, he has an opinion about whose fighters are more likely to win... So he must have known that some of the fights were to the death!!!
So the question is: Is Chakotay an asshole (for endorsing a deadly game) or a complete idiot (for ignoring that such games exist)?
Penk (the slave master of the fighters) says that they're going to program a red match (a match to the death) and that it will boost the audience. So that clearly means that they advertise that fact. In fact, it's even possible that the viewing of red matches is more expensive than the one of blue matches.
Chakotay sounds like he's been studying the game for some time, he argues the finer points, he has an opinion about whose fighters are more likely to win... So he must have known that some of the fights were to the death!!!
So the question is: Is Chakotay an asshole (for endorsing a deadly game) or a complete idiot (for ignoring that such games exist)?
Maybe he assumed it was gimmicked to a degree. Like a 24th century WWE
It's Chakotay. Either answer likely applies.
The reason for picking the people they picked is so we could have an episode. Let's not overthink it.
TNG still isn't as bad as TOS in this regard where the top two officers on the ship went on nearly every away mission. If you time it Scotty probably spends more time technically in command of the Enterprise than Kirk does over the course of the show.
But it's TV. People want to see Kirk/Spock/Bones together so they're the ones on the away missions.
Yes, the others should consider themselves lucky if they got more than one line or two.
It's an old beef, and the right explanation.
It's almost like it is a TV show about characters played by actors that get paid money...I know, I was just as shocked as you were.
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