What's the worst canon decision in the history of Trek?
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Better the ilusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths.
Living in a fake world doesn't seem like a very satisfying end to me. Tbh Kelvinverse Pike probably had a better end
And how exactly is that like it's a "glorified semiconductor?" Don't worry, that's a rhetorical question, because it isn't like that at all.
Better than living in that ridiculous chair, no?
Stuck in a chair with beeps, not so ok to me. I wish the writers had the guts to screw canon and adapt his fate.
Add an epilogue of the powerful Talosians figuring out how to read a book on human anatomy and fix Pike and Vina.
What is easier, major surgery or hallucinations to make ships see black holes in space?
Oddly enough, getting people to see illusions might very well be the much easier task for the Talosians. They've been so caught up in that kind of world and thinking that they simply may not have the ability to do things like perform actual surgery.
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The question was sound, the commentary rude. It’s a glorified semiconductor in that it doesn’t do any warping of the spacetime continuum itself. It’s used to conduct the energy from the explosion in the core to the nacelles whose coils to the warping.
Is your issue that this is different than how the earlier expanded universe materials presented the tech? How about including your thoughts on tech changes over the course of the canon and mention some of your favorite non-canon resources instead?
Mileage will vary for sure. I weigh Trek equally in terms of decisions. The past doesn't get a pass because its past. The present doesn't get harsher treatment because I was alive for when it was made.
Hmmm...so is it brain surgery or rocket science?
That's nonsense. By the way, in real life, all matter and energy warps the spacetime continuum, even though it doesn't contribute to faster-than-light starship drives.
None of that qualifies as a worst canon decision in my view. (My views on the first tech manual and other Trek tech are posted elsewhere on the board.) This entire sidebar is off-topic, in fact. But you posted about it up upthread, and I thought it was nonsensical enough to say so. My opinion has been stated, and I'm done with it.
Back to the actual topic. Killing Kirk.
Archer lived to a ripe old age and becomes president of the Federation.
Picard is going strong at 90+.
Sisko is with the Prophets.
Janeway returned home and is an Admiral.
Pike gets his illusions.
Kirk is kind of randomly killed and in fact comes from eternal life to die. Really not the right choice.
Archer lived to a ripe old age and becomes president of the Federation.
Picard is going strong at 90+.
Sisko is with the Prophets.
Janeway returned home and is an Admiral.
Pike gets his illusions.
Kirk is kind of randomly killed and in fact comes from eternal life to die. Really not the right choice.
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Though I didn't like the fact that he was basically mindraped by kelvin Spock.
This has been something I've gone back and forth on. On the one hand, I do not believe that any fictional character deserves any particular end. A character is a fictional construct and isn't owed anything by its nature. On the other hand, Kirk's death was just random and not consistent with the themes the film or his larger journey.
Maybe Kirk isn't really dead. After all, Guinan was in the Nexus AFTER she had been killed in the real world (along with everyone else) so why not Kirk as well. Maybe his "echo" is still there to greet every newcomer.
That doesn’t make sense. What’s your argument, that there’s no use in studying gravity because your shoe produces it too?
I wasn’t stating your view. You took issue with mine and I addressed it. Thanks.
Maybe Kirk isn't really dead. After all, Guinan was in the Nexus AFTER she had been killed in the real world (along with everyone else) so why not Kirk as well. Maybe his "echo" is still there to greet every newcomer.
If time has no meaning in the nexus, a piece of you would always be in there if you had ever entered it. I always liked that concept....but it's a very complicated (and convoluted) concept that would require some true science-fiction'ing to really explore!
It's simply a statement that my shoe produces a tiny amount of gravity.
The thread is not about seriously judging the worthiness of stated opinion, no one is going to get a gold medal or star for expressing the right 'worst canon decision'.
Back away from the Trektalibanista tone.
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I think a lot of the decision since Enterprise finished and CBS came into ownership have been bad. I think someone has realized this and is making corrections to bring things back in line, but I think we have ended up with 3 different continuities between Enterprise and TOS (and the argument could be made, though I don't agree with it, that Enterprise leading to TOS at all is one of those). There are annoying continuity errors that make the new stuff not fit as well as the old stuff. I personally love Picard and can't wait for Strange New Worlds (It is a further commentary on Discovery that the characters who resonated with me and that I like the most are the ones resurrected from The Cage). So it isn't all bad. Like I said, I think they course corrected. Same with the movies. Beyond was so much better than the previous two. I hope the next one (if it ever happens) will again be better (they need Simon Pegg on their creative team again). So I think, as much as they don't want to admit it, that the suits have seen the rocky reaction and have tried to fix the mistakes. I consider them canon mistakes because they all have claimed to branch off of the original canon instead of just start off a reboot.
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