What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Yeah, and Picard wasn't a dirty old man in "Insurrection", in spite of the appearances.

 

A slow advancement, with her actually stopping to explain things in fun-but-sarcastic ways, if well written, could have slowly built to something great for Data's advancement. The entire TNG crew lacked progress or advancing narrative. They all should have progressed quicker, Data included.

 

The crew wasn't to progress. It was already evolved.

Honestly, Pulaski's interaction with Data were poorly conceived. If it was Data to learn about humor then the story would have stopped for Pulaski to explain it. It would basically be Spock and McCoy stopping it dead-"It's a song, you android! You sing it!" But stretched over several episodes.

 

Come to think of it, it's a pity she barely appears in The Measure of a Man. She might have made things more interesting by being called to the stand by either Riker (hoping to show there are even people on board who have trouble seeing Data as truly sentient) or Picard (hoping to show that even persons critical of Data are swayed after interacting with him after some time), and give a conflicted testimony (as she's not sure herself what exactly to believe).

 

Well, going back to controversial opinions; Personally I am not a big fan of Data and I don't think we can honestly deduce his sentience/self-awareness/sapience from what we've seen of him. Besides, any holosuite character like the cop from "The Big Goodbye" sounds a lot more alive than Data, especially when "he programs himself" to have a relationship with a woman and then casually deletes that program. What a dismal episode that was!!! It made me dislike the character even more than before I saw it.

 

Shatner is a better actor than Mulgrew.

 

That's not contraversal. That's just fact.

 

That's neither here nor there. They can both be self-centered overbearing dicks, each in their own way.

 

I don't question Mulgrew's acting chops, her character was unevenly written. "If it's not on the page, it's not on the stage" as the Broadway saying goes. Purely MY issue. I don't like her voice.

 

Yeah, at times her voice is really strange, like nothing I've ever heard, like the sound a crow would make if crows could talk.

 

Some people think Shatner is a better actor than Avery Brooks.

 

No one can overact like Shatner. That's a fact!!! Ever see those scenes where everyone is affected by a thing ( pain collar, ultrasound... what have you) Shatnerr always seems like he's got a double dose of the thing.

 

I always thought Beverly and Jean Luc were close in age, almost contemporaries? Like Beverly was forty-something and Picard early fifties maybe?

 

He is. At least, I think that’s implicit with the medicine wheel, disembodied soul, animal spirit guides and- akoochimoya. Sorry. Hay fever.

 

Blimey. Learn something new every day. I just added Wesley age to ‘likely had sprog’ age for someone busy being a Starfleet Doctor and assumed forties. I suppose I didn’t take into account Stewart was playing older than his actual age for Picard.
Highly evolved humans eh.

Still. It’s no Riker/Lal.

 

Now that would have been interesting.

There are tons of instances where Data should have known more than he did. He was around humans for about 26 years before we met him in "Encounter at Fairpoint." He should have already had plenty of experience with expressions, colloquialisms, etc... He should at least know the definition of words. There should be over 20 of experience interacting with humans. He didn't live in a box.

 

Yeah, it's not funny the first time and didn't get funnier. It's just tiring.

Upthread I said we're moving to VOY for our weekly Trek lunch, and I know it has its probs, but I find fewer of the characters bland or annoying. Except Chaoktay. His blandness counts for two characters in my book. But I find Neelix less annoying than Data.Didn't know that until our S2 rewatch of TNG. Both Data and Troi I wish never to open their mouths. Ever. Just shh.

 

That's the feeling that I got, especially when I watched the DS9 doc.