Voyager is OK if you can get past loads of technobabble.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Voyager is OK if you can get past loads of technobabble.
Someone has to like it....
Trek Sucks
(sorry had to get the thread back on a real controversial track)
(sorry had to get the thread back on a real controversial track)
Someone has to like it....
If there’s nothing wrong with the episode, there must be something wrong with the universe!
"Masks" is one of the best episodes of the last two years of TNG.
Is there a single example in the whole franchise when it's an older woman who goes out with a much younger man?
Only when it's a ghost!!!
Sort of...
Miri fancied Kirk in "MIRI". She was centuries older, despite being a teenage girl in appearance.
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Of the Beverly-centric episodes it is definitely the most enjoyable.Someone has to like it....
Make of that what you will.
Pegasus beats it though.
"If there's nothing wrong with me, there must be something wrong with the universe." quickly became a big part of my worldview.
Miri liked Kirk. Data was said to be not much older than Wesley, and he hooked up with Yar and the woman from In Theory. T'pol made time for Trips clone (for that matter, she was 20 some years older than Trip). Jake dated a dabo girl. The woman from Insurrection was older than Picard by...a fair amount. The actress in The Dauphin was older than Wil Wheaton. In New Frontier pretty much every one Morgan Primus hooked up with.
Enjoy every other scene with The Doctor/7/Neelix/Kes talking to a human...I feel like they went for a Spock/McCoy dynamic without thinking it through. The Spock/McCoy dynamic worked because they had great banter. Data - being an android - can't dish it out like Spock can, so - rather than friends butting heads - Pulaski just came off as a jerk, bully and bigot.
"If there's nothing wrong with me, there must be something wrong with the universe." quickly became a big part of my worldview.
Miri liked Kirk. Data was said to be not much older than Wesley, and he hooked up with Yar and the woman from In Theory. T'pol made time for Trips clone (for that matter, she was 20 some years older than Trip). Jake dated a dabo girl. The woman from Insurrection was older than Picard by...a fair amount. The actress in The Dauphin was older than Wil Wheaton. In New Frontier pretty much every one Morgan Primus hooked up with.
I feel like they went for a Spock/McCoy dynamic without thinking it through. The Spock/McCoy dynamic worked because they had great banter. Data - being an android - can't dish it out like Spock can, so - rather than friends butting heads - Pulaski just came off as a jerk, bully and bigot.
Or, they could have written Data to, you know, actually advance, and learn to spar back, and we could watch him become more witty and human-like, which was his main goal anyways - and Pulaski would have LOVED to watch him advance! It wouldn't have been hate-filled. It would have been more like teacher's pride. It could have been a great arc. Pulaski should have stayed.
Learning to act more human was an extremely long range goal for Data, and I just don't see him making that particular advance in a satisfying or believable way, at least not until long after the audience had long since tired of seeing Pulaski dissing him.
Yeah, and Picard wasn't a dirty old man in "Insurrection", in spite of the appearances.
A slow advancement, with her actually stopping to explain things in fun-but-sarcastic ways, if well written, could have slowly built to something great for Data's advancement. The entire TNG crew lacked progress or advancing narrative. They all should have progressed quicker, Data included.
The crew wasn't to progress. It was already evolved.
Honestly, Pulaski's interaction with Data were poorly conceived. If it was Data to learn about humor then the story would have stopped for Pulaski to explain it. It would basically be Spock and McCoy stopping it dead-"It's a song, you android! You sing it!" But stretched over several episodes.
Honestly, Pulaski's interaction with Data were poorly conceived. If it was Data to learn about humor then the story would have stopped for Pulaski to explain it. It would basically be Spock and McCoy stopping it dead-"It's a song, you android! You sing it!" But stretched over several episodes.
Come to think of it, it's a pity she barely appears in The Measure of a Man. She might have made things more interesting by being called to the stand by either Riker (hoping to show there are even people on board who have trouble seeing Data as truly sentient) or Picard (hoping to show that even persons critical of Data are swayed after interacting with him after some time), and give a conflicted testimony (as she's not sure herself what exactly to believe).
Well, going back to controversial opinions; Personally I am not a big fan of Data and I don't think we can honestly deduce his sentience/self-awareness/sapience from what we've seen of him. Besides, any holosuite character like the cop from "The Big Goodbye" sounds a lot more alive than Data, especially when "he programs himself" to have a relationship with a woman and then casually deletes that program. What a dismal episode that was!!! It made me dislike the character even more than before I saw it.
Shatner is a better actor than Mulgrew.
That's not contraversal. That's just fact.
That's neither here nor there. They can both be self-centered overbearing dicks, each in their own way.
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