Spoilers The Falcon and Winter Soldier discussion
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Well if they move to Utah I thing Peggy would be okay married to two Steve Rogers at once in this alternative timeline. Jason
I can absolutely believe it. Of course he would want to do something to fix all the bad stuff that happened in the 20th century, but any significant changes could have doomed any chance to defeat Thanos in the future. One chance in more than four million, remember?
Then, in my opinion, you haven't paid any attention to the characters of Steve Rogers or Peggy Carter.
This is why him living in the original timeline and his actions causing it to unfold as we saw makes the most sense. Steve arrives in the past, does a couple small scale "experiments" to see if he can change the future, and quickly realizes that his actions actually cause things to happen exactly how they happened the first time.
So Steve can try and stop Hydra all he wants. Turns out Hydra would have taken over back in '77 if old Steve hadn't been there (or something like that). Eventually he will just accept that he isn't going to be able to change anything, so he will be able to live with not stopping Howard's murder.
So Steve can try and stop Hydra all he wants. Turns out Hydra would have taken over back in '77 if old Steve hadn't been there (or something like that). Eventually he will just accept that he isn't going to be able to change anything, so he will be able to live with not stopping Howard's murder.
Yeah that's the other time travel theory that cooks everyone's noodle.
Basically that everything that's happened in time has happened in time (including any incidents of time travel).
In other words if you today in 2021 went back to 1938 to try and kill Hitler; you would never succeed, because 1938 already passed and Hitler and World War II occurred, thus you didn't succeed. Yes you traveled back to 1938 from 2021 - but in 1938 you obviously failed because the events of 1938 occurred as you knew them in 2021.
The dialogue makes it pretty clear that all branching timelines cease to have ever existed once the stones are returned. Loki and Gamora as they exist at the conclusion of Endgame are remnants of dead timelines.
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You go back and kill Hitler, but someone else steps up and leads the Nazis because the Nazis are a product of the times, not of one man. You keep going back, and every time you return to a future worse than before. You're stuck in a Groundhog's loop, baby.
After 4 million tries to "fix" the world, you give up and go back to the most inconsequential thing you can think of, sticking with your first girlfriend who was infertile and died a spinster. It changes so little that the timeline drifts back and merges with the original after a few generations.
Maybe The Ancient One gave him a partial/temporary memory wipe when he returned the time stone? I don't see taking another Caps place - presumably leaving him frozen - and living with a Peggy from another dimension who's not the Peggy he knew as a very Cap action either...
Except that the whole point of The Ancient One not wanting to give Banner the stone and Banner promising to return it to her time and place was that so there WOULDN'T be any branching timelines. There ended up being one with Loki, but that's because they screwed up.
He had 7 decades, access to Howard, may have remembered what he knew of Wakanda...Hell, he could've gone to Wakanda two weeks before he went to the bench. Also, if he was in an alternate timeline, how'd he get back to ours?
It was fun though.
Presumably we'll see some sort of resolution to that in the Loki series.
Maybe, but I don't need one. It's an alternate Loki having time travel adventures; that's fine.
If we're going that far alternate, then I want a Loki and Howard the Duck team-up.
After all, how much trouble can two guys actually get into?
Here's the thing, If merely returning the stones to their reality was enough to fold it back into the main timeline, then alternate Loki wouldn't exist to have his show. He didn't remove the Space stone from the 2012 timeline, he is just hanging out elsewhere. So when Steve returned the Time and Mind Stones that reality should have been pruned but it wasn't, because other changes to the timeline were made when they stole the stones in the first place.
I am guessing that the stone protected him from the collapse of the timeline or shunted him to an alternate universe (in the multiverse) somehow.
Bingo!
Proving once again that people suck, Wyatt Russell is receiving death threats...
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People like them make real fans look bad. Why they can't separate fiction from reality will always infuriate me.
More bizarre is they haven't made him a asshole character. Just a soldier that might be in over his head in dealing with Super hero stuff as opposed to regular military stuff. Jason
Not an asshole? In high school we would have duct-taped him naked to a bus stop after midnight in downtown Poughkeepsie.
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