However Voyager mentions DS9 a handful of times
Voyager never mentioned/referenced on DS9
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DS9 is a hub of ships coming and going, especially with the wormhole. Why would one ship be mentioned?
My guess is that they received word of Voyager's absence from the Alpha Quadrant only when it became news that they were in the Delta Quadrant. I imagine ships went missing in action quite a bit during the wars, and Deep Space Nine was no stranger to having war torn weary souls aboard. News of a missing ship in action was no news to those guys.
Seems there is only backward referencing. For example, did TNG ever mention DS9 or a DS9 specific character? (I believe they introduced the Bajorans for DS9 purposes but was there ever an explicit reference?)
Both Quark and Bashir appear on TNG. (also, TNG introduced Cardassians as well)
Right. I remembered that crossover episode when I replied, I just thought it was a DS9 ep rather than a TNG one. Clearly I was wrong.
It's 2 episodes, actually. Quark appears in "Firstborn", Bashir in "Birthright (part I)".
OK, this time I have to admit that I had utterly forgotten about 'Firstborn'
Would that I could forget about Birthright Part II.
Part I, the part with Bashir, was Ok.
Pretty sure loads of ships leaving DS9 were vanishing around that time, although mostly gamma quadrant expeditions. Turned out to be the Dominion.
Do you really believe DS9 would have been unaware of Voyager's disappearance given DS9 was the last place anyone back home saw them... Odds are Defiant and a couple of runabouts were involved in the search for Voyager for a bit. The DS9 producers and writers just didn't put in a line about Voyager.
I remember a Malibu DS9 comic had the Maquis use the recently missing Voyager as a lure on one occasion.
Regardless, while I can understand not making a big deal about it at a time that Voyager was not going to be found, so making any reference ultimately meaningless, given that DS9 seemed to be a hub of Starfleet’s anti-Maquis actions, being so close to the Cardassian border, the DMZ, AND the Badlands, a few mentions of search efforts honestly would have fit in, at the least.
It leaves the audience with two interpretations - no one in the Alpha Quadrant cares, or Starfleet ships going missing in the Badlands is common enough, no one reports on it. Neither is a particularly favorable interpretation for Starfleet proper.
Regardless, while I can understand not making a big deal about it at a time that Voyager was not going to be found, so making any reference ultimately meaningless, given that DS9 seemed to be a hub of Starfleet’s anti-Maquis actions, being so close to the Cardassian border, the DMZ, AND the Badlands, a few mentions of search efforts honestly would have fit in, at the least.
It leaves the audience with two interpretations - no one in the Alpha Quadrant cares, or Starfleet ships going missing in the Badlands is common enough, no one reports on it. Neither is a particularly favorable interpretation for Starfleet proper.
Wasn't it in the 2 part DS9 episode about the Maquis that Sisko makes a reference to a few ships disappearing in the Badlands. Could that have been considered a passing reference. Now I don't know if this was before Voyager or Chakotay's ship vanished or not.
All that being said, I think there should have been a mention specifically of Voyager. DS9 was it's last port of call. Their mission was to track down a Maquis ship. And the Maquis were a storyline on DS9.
All that being said, I think there should have been a mention specifically of Voyager. DS9 was it's last port of call. Their mission was to track down a Maquis ship. And the Maquis were a storyline on DS9.
Honestly, I could possibly see a whole episode with the Maquis blaming the Cardassians for it and Starfleet and the Cardassians blaming the Maquis for it. Of course no one would possibly guess the real reason because there would be no debris or energy signatures either way.
Or people in the AQ do care, and they always report missing ships in the Badlands...but it's not brought up because we don't see or hear every moment of the lives of these characters. Just because an episode didn't take time out to mention it, doesn't mean it wasn't something dealt with in-universe.
I imagine the senior staff were aware of the disappearance of Voyager as I expect DS9 would have been used as a point of call for any Starfleet vessels re-tracing their route. But I doubt the senior staff would have been part of that investigation; nor would I expect them to be particularly bothered by the news four years later that the ship had ended up in the Delta Quadrant considering what else was happening at the time.
Starfleet ships going missing is nothing new, and I can't imagine unless it impacted on individual crew members (with loved ones, or they served on that ship, etc) would it be something worthy of being mentioned as a random occurrence. It sounds to me like Voyager was only really noteworthy when communications became more regular with the Alpha Quadrant; I mean nobody even noticed the USS Equinox had gone missing when Voyager started it journey through the Delta Quadrant, so it's likely this events aren't well publicised.
Starfleet ships going missing is nothing new, and I can't imagine unless it impacted on individual crew members (with loved ones, or they served on that ship, etc) would it be something worthy of being mentioned as a random occurrence. It sounds to me like Voyager was only really noteworthy when communications became more regular with the Alpha Quadrant; I mean nobody even noticed the USS Equinox had gone missing when Voyager started it journey through the Delta Quadrant, so it's likely this events aren't well publicised.
Ro Laren makes a passing reference to Deep Space Nine in the TNG episode "Preemptive Strike" where she joins the Maquis ("Two days ago, a Yridian convoy left Deep Space Nine for the Demilitarized Zone...").
I always assumed that Deep Space Nine was aware of Voyager's disappearance because it was the last location of the ship before it disappeared, but that was just something that happened off-screen. Would have been nice to get a quick reference to it, though.
For the life of me I can't remember who said it or where I read it, but I swear I recall some writer or producer or something saying that Sisko's line in "The Maquis" about how several ships had gone missing in the badlands was meant to be a little bit of set-up for Voyager, which was still about a year away from premiering but was in early stages of development at that point.
I always assumed that Deep Space Nine was aware of Voyager's disappearance because it was the last location of the ship before it disappeared, but that was just something that happened off-screen. Would have been nice to get a quick reference to it, though.
For the life of me I can't remember who said it or where I read it, but I swear I recall some writer or producer or something saying that Sisko's line in "The Maquis" about how several ships had gone missing in the badlands was meant to be a little bit of set-up for Voyager, which was still about a year away from premiering but was in early stages of development at that point.
It would have been such a simple way to add a little bit of continuity between DS9 and Voyager if they had mentioned Samantha Wildman's Ktarian husband on DS9. On Voyager when Wildman reveals she's pregnant to Janeway, she says he's still back on Deep Space Nine. They could have mentioned him at some point as an officer on the station or the Defiant.
DS9 did a whole episode featuring a VOY character ("Dr. Bashir, I Presume") and gave Tuvok a mirror universe cameo. ("Through the Looking Glass")
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