Toshiba Dumps HD-DVD
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I don't think that will happen, as I doubt anyone would make a disc the REUIRES internet connectivity to play the feature. I could see 'Extras' that need internet connectivity, but not the feature itself; and again, all reports indicate that a the actual feature (film) of a 2.0 disc will play just fine on a 1.0 or 1.1 player.
I don't think that will happen, as I doubt anyone would make a disc the REUIRES internet connectivity to play the feature. I could see 'Extras' that need internet connectivity, but not the feature itself; and again, all reports indicate that a the actual feature (film) of a 2.0 disc will play just fine on a 1.0 or 1.1 player.
Exactly. Most DVD players of any kind can do that. Standard, Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.
The thing is, upscaling DVD players are largely a marketing gimmick anyway. All HDTVs, by definition, must do their own upscaling, regardless of whether or not your DVD player also does. (If TVs didn't upscale, all you would see was a tiny rectangle of picture in the middle of the screen, surrounded by black.) Some TVs have upscalers that are *better* than any DVD player might have.
if you're talking about UPSCALING, and not just displaying an HD source, most decent TVs will be able to do better than a dvd player.
Just look at it: do you think the $99 upscaling DVD player or the $2500 tv has a better processor chip to handle that?
As long as your wiring supports it, you're probably better off letting the dvd pass the signal straight through, and letting the better chip in the TV do the work...
Just look at it: do you think the $99 upscaling DVD player or the $2500 tv has a better processor chip to handle that?
As long as your wiring supports it, you're probably better off letting the dvd pass the signal straight through, and letting the better chip in the TV do the work...
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Agreed.
If you don't have the right profile, the features that require it won't even show up in the menu. The discs are 'smart' enough to not show you features you can't access. But all profiles of Blu-Ray will play the movie on all players ever made.
Agreed.
If you don't have the right profile, the features that require it won't even show up in the menu. The discs are 'smart' enough to not show you features you can't access. But all profiles of Blu-Ray will play the movie on all players ever made.
Re: Paramount Dumps HD-DVD
I could give a damn who paid who and how much. (Toshiba did the same thing with HD-DVD, so don't even try to single Sony out on this.) All I care is that the war is over.
I could give a damn who paid who and how much. (Toshiba did the same thing with HD-DVD, so don't even try to single Sony out on this.) All I care is that the war is over.
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Consumers didn't choose Blu-ray or HD DVD. Warner Bros. thought it was time to support one format and try to push adoption. They were split between Blu-ray and HD DVD, but they wanted to end it as quickly as possible. They couldn't get Fox to come along with them to the Red side, so they went Blu-ray.
Though they were paid a significant amount, as was Fox, money wasn't the deciding factor.
Companies fell for the Sony hype in the beginning that the PS3 would push the format, they stuck it out, got incentives along the way, and eventually Sony influenced the industry to get behind one format.
That's all there is to it. Doesn't really matter. The discs look great on both formats and now we're at a situation where one format's movies can be bought for dirt cheap. It's awesome!
This is basically what happened, supposedly, allegedly.
Consumers didn't choose Blu-ray or HD DVD. Warner Bros. thought it was time to support one format and try to push adoption. They were split between Blu-ray and HD DVD, but they wanted to end it as quickly as possible. They couldn't get Fox to come along with them to the Red side, so they went Blu-ray.
Though they were paid a significant amount, as was Fox, money wasn't the deciding factor.
Companies fell for the Sony hype in the beginning that the PS3 would push the format, they stuck it out, got incentives along the way, and eventually Sony influenced the industry to get behind one format.
That's all there is to it. Doesn't really matter. The discs look great on both formats and now we're at a situation where one format's movies can be bought for dirt cheap. It's awesome!
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I'm pretty sure the second last sentence is true, as for the rest, maybe. This is another viewpoint on the format war.http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/02/21/lessons-from-the-death-of-hd-dvd/
Why would you WANT to? DVDs shouldn't be played in cars. They're a distraction and they're dangerous.
Good for them.
But just because the masses don't care, doesn't mean I can't.
You don't have to have a bloody Net connection for firmware updates! Just download the sumbitch and burn it to CD.
And the tinfoilhat-ization, it would appear.
Do I dectect a Sony stockholder?
It is not going to be an expensive chip either way really - any kind of serious image processing would result in a rather powerful rig being required - all the chip really does is a little softcore interpolation and smoothing out.
Don't assume that price instantly means expensive components - a $2500 TV is built to sell with a BIG markup, a huge one usually. DVD players HAVE to be cheap, TVs can get away with being a lot pricier currently. There are some very funny lists out there of how many parts from a £7500 Ford Ka can be found on a £300,000 Aston Martin!
My Pioneer DVD player outputs a progressive, upscaled HDMI signal that looks stonking on my Samsung 37" TV, good enough for me to wait a long time before even sniffing at Blu Ray. Samsung are not the priciest of brands admittedly, but the TV manages just fine doing its own upscaling from 526p with the same input.
Given a choice I would say the DVD player has the edge over the TV by a visible margin however - it probably depends somewhat on the TV in question.
And I closed the other one so we can hopefully keep the discussion confined to one thread. I'm not in a position to try the "merge threads" option just yet.
and that's pretty much the reason why i've been saying that Toshiba lost, but Sony hasn't WON yet, either. Except for those people looking for a PS3, no one is going to rush out and buy the blu-ray stuff at that price, either. There's just no rush, what with upconverting dvd players making regular dvds look just fine...
Why would you WANT to? DVDs shouldn't be played in cars. They're a distraction and they're dangerous.
Good for them.
But just because the masses don't care, doesn't mean I can't.
You don't have to have a bloody Net connection for firmware updates! Just download the sumbitch and burn it to CD.
And the tinfoilhat-ization, it would appear.
Do I dectect a Sony stockholder?
Don't I wish.
It sure hasn't given Sony much reason to drop prices.
They just announced two new models that'll be priced at $400 (July 2008) and $500 (fall 2008).
Well, at least they're profile 2.0.
Sony are selling a niche product that is highly unlikely to ever gain mass market acceptance. They know this and are rooking the techies and enthusiasts as much as possible.
It is by no means certain Sony can make a Blu Ray drive for $100 yet, let alone sell it for that - the technology is still poorly developed and they lose a lot of money on the loss leading PS3.
A little good news for HD-DVD player owners (if you bought from Best Buy):
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat147600050717&type=category
Best Buy is giving out $50 gift cards to anyone who bought a HD-DVD player from them before the prices were reduced a couple weeks ago. They're also advertising a "trade-in" deal for people that want to get a couple bucks for HD-DVD players or movies (unlikely to be much).
A good move on their part. Spreads a little good will towards customers, most of whom will then go in and spend more than the $50 on products in the store. They're obviously hoping people go buy Blu-ray stuff with it, but we'll see.
I'm liking where this leaves me. I bought my HD-DVD player from BB for $100. Came with 9 movies. Now they are giving me $50 back. So for $50, I got a good upconverting DVD player, and it came with a bunch of free movies. Depending on how much trade-in value for the player and movies is, I could break even or even come out slightly ahead in the end. Or just keep the cheap player and pile of movies, and wait for blu-ray prices to fall. Between that and the bonus tax rebate checks, could be time for a PS3, perhaps...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat147600050717&type=category
Best Buy is giving out $50 gift cards to anyone who bought a HD-DVD player from them before the prices were reduced a couple weeks ago. They're also advertising a "trade-in" deal for people that want to get a couple bucks for HD-DVD players or movies (unlikely to be much).
A good move on their part. Spreads a little good will towards customers, most of whom will then go in and spend more than the $50 on products in the store. They're obviously hoping people go buy Blu-ray stuff with it, but we'll see.
I'm liking where this leaves me. I bought my HD-DVD player from BB for $100. Came with 9 movies. Now they are giving me $50 back. So for $50, I got a good upconverting DVD player, and it came with a bunch of free movies. Depending on how much trade-in value for the player and movies is, I could break even or even come out slightly ahead in the end. Or just keep the cheap player and pile of movies, and wait for blu-ray prices to fall. Between that and the bonus tax rebate checks, could be time for a PS3, perhaps...
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