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Spoilers How literal is LD in your headcanon?
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No, it doesn't.
Yep.
Besides LDS itself, see, for example, Galaxy Quest, a film that manages to make fun of and revere both Star Trek and fandom, all at the same time.
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There are clear instances of franchise self-parody in LDS. My gods, as just one but also the preeminent example, just look at S1E9 "Crisis Point." I really cannot imagine a clearer example of Star Trek self-parody than the holo-novel Crisis Point: The Rise of Vindicta.
Leave it to a fan to suck the fun out of everything in a franchise.
Don't challenge us to top it.
Lieutenant, actually.
And IIRC, nuKirk was just about to graduate from the Academy when the ceremony was interrupted (by the attack on Vulcan). Kirk Prime apparently graduated AS a Lieutenant, so maybe nuKirk was about to do the same thing.
Um, Lieutenant Kirk was brought before the board due to cheating on the Kobyashi Maru test not to graduate. However, he was a lieutenant, and eligible to be moved up the chain of command once Pike put him in as executive officer. Saavik was also a lieutenant, addressed as such in TWOK, while still wearing cadet red. She was then a full lieutenant in the next film, while wearing command white. So, the transition from cadet to full officer isn't not huge in Starfleet.
And we will now convene a board of inquiry in to your lack of knowledge, Admiral...Whoopsies.
I don't think about how literal Lower Decks Canon is. But, tell you what: if Peanut Hamper makes an appearance on Picard, I will.
My point is one can’t have it both ways. “Of course LD is 100% literal with respect to live action!” Ok, then how exactly in terms of ensigns’ accomodations? A Starfleet ensign in 2380 can be posted to a starship with a corridor full of bunks based on… what performance characteristics that make them different from Harry Kim?
I just see it as a comedic exaggeration of their “lower decks” status, since it doesn’t fit anything that’s been shown or implied for that era. An ensign either has quarters or maybe shared quarters if they’re particularly junior or unaccomplished, but not just a bunk in a corridor.
Why can't different ships have different styles? Why this demand for uniformity when Starfleet has multiple ships with different mission profiles? We already know that various Starfleet officers will get better or lesser desired assignments, based upon a variety of factors. Sisko's assignment to DS9 was not considered ideal at all. Eddington reports wishing he had gotten the center seat but for whatever reason he got in the Security track.
I don't see the California's class accommodations being so out of line as to not work in live action.
I don't see the California's class accommodations being so out of line as to not work in live action.
Both Sisko and (presumably) Eddington had quarters, and Sisko at least could’ve chosen to return to Earth by the end of the pilot. I’m specifically asking how ensigns’ accomodations are determined so that nobody feels slighted. Why did McMahan with all the obvious research choose to introduce this never-before-seen corridor arrangement for ensigns? In my opinion, because it emphasizes their status as “exiles” in the context of an animated comedy, regardless of all the times nobody felt the need to build special corridor sets for junior officers in live action, not even on ships smaller than the Enterprise-D, like the Defiant or Voyager.
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Or the Cerritos simply has way more crew than it can accommodate with quarters because of the type of ship it is and the missions it performs? This is the first time we’ve seen what is an Operations workhorse.
Or, to @BillJ 's point is that this is a class of ship never seen before which was McMahan's point. That we are experiencing a different side of Starfleet life. I don't agree that it emphasizes them as exiles. I think it emphasizes the nature of the work done on this particular ship.
Now, by bigger question is, why would Starfleet officers feel slighted? Isn't this an organization that prides itself on benefiting humanity? Each officer is there to serve and service will involve different types of assignments, both great and small. I mean, even in the unevolved 21st century I have worked in organizations were people recognize that there are shifts that are not enjoyable but still need to be done to support the organization. Like at a hospital where everyone has to pull the night shift. It's the nature of the organization.
I also think that there is a great emphasis being placed on personal quarters in a way that may not be a concern in Starfleet.
I think Trek has been hugely inconsistent with how it portrays sleeping quarters. TOS had spacious rooms for all, then Nick Meyer wanted bunks for the underlings, the Defiant had cramped bunks but separate rooms. I don't think Lower Decks is outside the realm of what's established. Except they seem to sleep in their uniforms? Or if not, I guess they just change in front of everyone cos it's the future and we've moved past modesty?
I bet there's already a hundred fanfics about that
I bet there's already a hundred fanfics about that
To misquote Gene Roddenberry: By the 24th century they wouldn't care.
I imagine the synthetic ban probably resulted in the genocide of the Exocomps.
Well, there is that guy who's always walking around wearing his towel.
They definitely went out of their way to make the future dreary as fuck in the live action shows.
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