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Legendary's Godzilla 2 & beyond - News & Rumors

He's a great actor. If he was unimpressive, it's almost certainly because he was given a garbage script.

Yes, as I said, the writing was the problem (the movie overall wasn't bad, but his character was the weakest part of it). It still doesn't make me eager to see his character return.
 
I'm glad Millie Bobbie Brown is back, I liked her character. I'm still disappointed they killed off Serizawa though, he was a highlight of both movies.
I was thinking Mark Russell wasn't that bad, but then I realized the only things interesting about his character were Vera Fermiga and Millie Bobby Brown's characters.
Hmm, according to Shun Oguri is playing Ren Serizawa, who I'm assuming will be Ken Watanabe's characters son.
Also disappointed Bradley Whitford's not coming back, he was hilarious.
The previous movies in this series established that Godzilla's role in the Monsterverse continuity is as a protector of the Earth, a benevolent kaiju who maintains the natural balance -- much like Gamera's role in the 1990s trilogy. So it's consistent that something must be wrong if he's suddenly turned villainous.
Yeah, I'm glad they put that line in the trailer, just before that part I was getting confused because Godzilla is supposed to be a good guy.
 
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I'm glad Millie Bobbie Brown is back, I liked her character.

After seeing her in Enola Holmes, I totally get why I've been hearing people say they want to see her as young Princess Leia. She does strikingly resemble Carrie Fisher.


I was thinking Mark Russell wasn't that bad

I found him deeply obnoxious and unpleasant. On hearing that his wife and daughter are in danger, he prioritizes shouting “I told you so” and being a self-righteous jerk over actually trying to help find his family. Later with the Monarch team, he speaks out of turn and condescendingly lectures them on obvious things that these dozens of trained experts should’ve been able to figure out on their own, but no, Mark is the designated hero so they all have to be dumbed down so he can get the glory.


, but then I realized the only things interesting about his character were Vera Fermiga and Millie Bobby Brown's characters.

Yes. There were times during the movie when I felt it would be better if Mark wasn’t in it, if the film had let the mother-daughter dynamic drive the story instead of bringing a cliched estranged father into the mix. Vera Farmiga and Millie Bobby Brown are both strong actresses who could’ve carried the emotional arc of the film on their own. I can even imagine a better version of this film where Joe Morton’s Dr. Brooks is the male lead, Emma’s mentor and Madison’s surrogate grandfather who would have much the same philosophical conflict with Emma that Mark did.


Also disappointed Bradley Whitford's not coming back, he was hilarious.

I felt he was trying too hard to be Charlie Day in Pacific Rim.
 
I assume then that you haven't watched many classic Kaiju movies then?

Over a dozen off the top of my head, both Godzilla and non-Godzilla stuff. Contrary to popular belief, kids aren't in many of them, especially as a focus, outside of some of the campier 70s Godzilla and Gamera films. Also, the action is generally good in the Japanese films, always clear and not just shitty CG fights taking place at night/in the rain to hide the lack of quality.

Even when Japanese kaiju films use kids or teens as a focus, they can do it a lot better. The Heisei Gamera film trilogy is excellent, even with having a teen girl being connected to Gamera. This was because she had a significant role, but the movie wasn't about her the way Godzilla KotM was about Stranger Things girl. The Gamera film movie was still about Gamera and the events around it, the teen was just a part of the story.

A good Japanese made Godzilla movie doesn't have any kid charactersas the main focus of the plot, and even if the amount of godzilla time varies he's always the big part of the plot, as opposed to focusing on shit like Norma Bates enacting a Final Fantasy villain plan to destroy the world or army man Quicksilver trying to get back to the scarlet witch.

The Legendary Pictures Godzilla films have all been absolute failures, as Godzilla films and just as being good movies in general. Both ended up being even worse then the 98 film in my opinion, and so hopefully someday its version of Godzilla also gets slammed into the Sydney Opera House and killed by the real thing (along with that horrid "Mothra").

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Holy shit, they have to cheat so much to make Kong seem even slightly competitive. First they had to make him a lot bigger, then they turned him into an ape from Planet of the Apes based on his building a fucking axe. He can't build fucking hand axes, and even if he did they couldn't block/absorb Godzilla's beam. also, Godzilla could just drag the ape into the water and drown him. The movie was always going to be bad, but its pretty pathetic how bad it looks even just based on the trailer.
 
Several other websites are showing screen grabs of what they say show the true villain of the movie - MechaGodzilla.
 
Godzilla's being framed I tell ya! Framed!


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It still doesn't make me eager to see his character return.
Well, given what happens in the previous movies I fully expect him to die halfway through.
The Heisei Gamera film trilogy is excellent, even with having a teen girl being connected to Gamera. This was because she had a significant role, but the movie wasn't about her the way Godzilla KotM was about Stranger Things girl. The Gamera film movie was still about Gamera and the events around it, the teen was just a part of the story.
How about Gamera 3 where Gamera was barely in it and most of the movie focused on a few teens? Don't get me wrong, it's a great movie, but Gamera had like five minutes of screentime.
First they had to make him a lot bigger, then they turned him into an ape from Planet of the Apes based on his building a fucking axe. He can't build fucking hand axes, and even if he did they couldn't block/absorb Godzilla's beam.
The axe is one of Godzilla's dorsal plates which are part of the whole atomic breath process so I'm pretty sure it can resist a direct hit.
 
It looks like they're taking inspiration from Godzilla: The Series, with these cobra-like creatures being lifted almost unchanged from the episode that sees Godzilla go up against a MechaniKong-type robot.
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And then I'm curious about this location. It appears to be a huge area with a metal floor and a glowing Godzilla symbol. Perhaps they discover an advanced ancient civilization that had some connection to the titans.
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Really looking forward to this and it's a shame i won't get to see it on the big screen.

The only true dilemma is now who to root for? I'd hate it if they took the easy way out, build up the fight in the fist half, have one big ass battle and suddenly another threat appears and they team up.
 
It looks like they're taking inspiration from Godzilla: The Series, with these cobra-like creatures being lifted almost unchanged from the episode that sees Godzilla go up against a MechaniKong-type robot.

Surprising if true, since that series was produced by Tri-Star. I wouldn't think that Legendary would have the rights to original monsters from that series.
 
Surprising if true, since that series was produced by Tri-Star. I wouldn't think that Legendary would have the rights to original monsters from that series.
They did something similar with the Skull Crawlers being based on that one lizard creature that appears very briefly in the original King Kong. Although the legal situation there I'm sure would be different. I don't know who owns the rights to the other monsters in that movie.
 
They did something similar with the Skull Crawlers being based on that one lizard creature that appears very briefly in the original King Kong. Although the legal situation there I'm sure would be different. I don't know who owns the rights to the other monsters in that movie.

That's different. If they have the rights to Kong himself, then it follows that they have the rights to all characters from the original movie. Godzilla: The Series was itself an adaptation, by a company (Columbia TriStar) that had a license to Godzilla but also invented its own original monsters. So other Godzilla licensees wouldn't necessarily have the right to use TriStar's creations. It's like how IDW has the license to Rom the Spaceknight, but doesn't have permission to use the original concepts like the Dire Wraiths that Marvel created when they had the same license.

Although I suppose it could be like the Star Trek license, where any original characters or concepts created by a licensee like Pocket Books, IDW, or Star Trek Online become the property of CBS rather than any single licensee, and can thus be crossed over freely.
 
That's different. If they have the rights to Kong himself, then it follows that they have the rights to all characters from the original movie.
You sure? The rights related to the original movie are extremely complicated and have been the subject of multiple court cases. My understanding is that the movie and the character are owned by separate entities. But if there's someone who understands better then please speak up.
So other Godzilla licensees wouldn't necessarily have the right to use TriStar's creations.
Didn't Toho buy back all the rights from TriStar (hence Zilla appearing in Final Wars)? Or was that only for the film and not the series?
 
You sure? The rights related to the original movie are extremely complicated and have been the subject of multiple court cases. My understanding is that the movie and the character are owned by separate entities.

Oh, I didn't know that.


Didn't Toho buy back all the rights from TriStar (hence Zilla appearing in Final Wars)? Or was that only for the film and not the series?

Toho always owned the Godzilla character; they just licensed the US film/TV rights to TriStar, like how Marvel licensed the Spider-Man screen rights to Sony. A licensing deal is more like leasing your property than selling it. You still own it, but someone else pays you for the right to use it. Toho planned to avoid making Japanese Godzilla films while TriStar made an American trilogy, but that wasn't because they lost the rights, more because the series had been losing money and they wanted to let it rest for a while, and maybe hoped a big-budget American version would renew interest. But once the first TriStar film bombed, they restarted the Japanese series five years earlier than expected. And once TriStar's license expired from disuse, it freed Toho to license the US rights to Legendary instead. (And I gather Legendary has the exclusive live-action rights for a certain number of years, which is why the past few Godzilla films from Toho have been anime.)

As I said, though, the licensing deal could've been something like how the Star Trek license works, where everything created by a licensee automatically becomes the intellectual property of the licensor. So the design for the USS Titan created for the novels could show up in Lower Decks. Zilla showing up in Final Wars could've been the same sort of thing. In that case, it could be that Toho has the rights to all of G:TS's original monsters, and thus that its licensees could use any of them.
 
Godzilla vs Kong - Domestic Trailer 1 - 4K UHD HDR

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That doesn't look like an ordinary plane...

Who's banking on aliens?

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Hmm, could be.
So this Mechagodzilla, who built him ? Humans ?
Several versions of Mechagodzilla were created by humans in the Japanese movies. I think the one in the Heisei movies was created by the military as a weapon to use against Godzilla.
IGN has posted an article explaining why Kong is the same size as Godzilla now. According to promotional material from when Skull Island first came out, he was just an adolescent in that one, so he has simply continued to grow since the '70s. The article also says that there was a line from John C. Reilly's character about how Kong was going to continue to grow.
 
I think the one in the Heisei movies was created by the military as a weapon to use against Godzilla.

Yes. The original Mechagodzilla in the Showa era was created by aliens as an impostor Godzilla, eventually losing its outer skin and revealing the mecha underneath. The Heisei version was a military weapon developed by the anti-Godzilla defense agency G-Force, though it was built using reverse-engineered future technology salvaged from the corpse of MechaKing Ghidorah. (Heisei Mechagodzilla also had an awesome musical theme.) The Millennium Mechagodzilla, aka Kiryu ("Firedragon"), was also a military construct, but it was built around the skeleton of the original Godzilla that was killed in 1954.


According to promotional material from when Skull Island first came out, he was just an adolescent in that one, so he has simply continued to grow since the '70s. The article also says that there was a line from John C. Reilly's character about how Kong was going to continue to grow.

Yep, I remember that line. I could tell at the time that it was setup for the inevitable matchup against Godzilla, which we already knew was coming.
 
Anyone wish Kyle Chandler's character in Godzilla VS King Kong made a small remark that his grandfather told stories about encountering King Kong before?

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I know 2005 King Kong was made by another studio but it would be interesting to bring up the fact.
 
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